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Old 02-27-2008, 09:08 PM   #1
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Dude, was he playing on the line? NO, he was in COVERAGE. He played BOTH LBer AND DE at Ohio State.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:23 AM   #2
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Dude, was he playing on the line? NO, he was in COVERAGE. He played BOTH LBer AND DE at Ohio State.
I have read a lot of your posts on Vernon and definetely agree with you. He is a beast, and for NJChief or whoever keeps pointing out he got pancaked by a WR, what good player hasn't been de-cleated (see Roidman and Maurice Jones Drew, that was nasty). Gholston is an animal he is relentless. The thing also is Gholston has ran in the high 4.4's and I believe at OSU's pro-day you are going to see some low numbers in the 40. The guy got 37reps on the bench, he tied Jake Long, and Vernon was disappointed because he though he would get at least 40. I would mess my pants if we got him, that would be awesome. Jim Heacock (D Coordinator at tOSU) said he was one of the best athletes he has ever seen at Ohio State, and that is saying a lot. Anyway I would be thrilled if we got him, but if we don't I hope we land someone else who will make a big impact.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:55 AM   #3
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Gholston is a great athlete, too bad he's not a great football player.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:20 PM   #4
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Gholston is a great athlete, too bad he's not a great football player.
Stats, and video tape don't lie. You don't like him and that's apparent, on the other hand that is your opinion, and you know what they say about those.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:22 PM   #5
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Gholston is a great athlete, too bad he's not a great football player.
Weird position.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:24 PM   #6
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Weird position.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:11 PM   #7
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Weird position.
He's gotten by on his physical prowess. He's a great athlete. But he's very raw - he only started 25 games. Plus, we all know OSU doesn't have the toughest schedule. He had a good game against Jake Long but was invisible in the national championship; on some plays it looks like he quit.

His first year he'd be a situational pass rusher. With the right coaching and system and his natural ability he could develop into a great football player, I just don't happen to think that he is one yet and there is a risk he never will be. I'm reminded a little bit of Boss Bailey - phenomenal athlete, room to grow, he just never did.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:17 PM   #8
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He's gotten by on his physical prowess. He's a great athlete. But he's very raw - he only started 25 games. Plus, we all know OSU doesn't have the toughest schedule. He had a good game against Jake Long but was invisible in the national championship; on some plays it looks like he quit.

His first year he'd be a situational pass rusher. With the right coaching and system and his natural ability he could develop into a great football player, I just don't happen to think that he is one yet and there is a risk he never will be. I'm reminded a little bit of Boss Bailey - phenomenal athlete, room to grow, he just never did.
I don't agree with you but you do have some points that are valid.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:10 PM   #9
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He's gotten by on his physical prowess. He's a great athlete. But he's very raw - he only started 25 games. Plus, we all know OSU doesn't have the toughest schedule. He had a good game against Jake Long but was invisible in the national championship; on some plays it looks like he quit.

His first year he'd be a situational pass rusher. With the right coaching and system and his natural ability he could develop into a great football player, I just don't happen to think that he is one yet and there is a risk he never will be. I'm reminded a little bit of Boss Bailey - phenomenal athlete, room to grow, he just never did.
Didn't play the toughest competition? Gimme a break, dude.

OSU, during the time Gholston was a starter, played a top 5 team AT LEAST FOUR TIMES. I may go out and actually count them because that statement is absolutely absurd.
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Didn't play the toughest competition? Gimme a break, dude.

OSU, during the time Gholston was a starter, played a top 5 team AT LEAST FOUR TIMES. I may go out and actually count them because that statement is absolutely absurd.
Don't forget about him squaring off with the Highlander, the greatest OL prospect EVAH......
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:08 PM   #11
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I have read a lot of your posts on Vernon and definetely agree with you. He is a beast, and for NJChief or whoever keeps pointing out he got pancaked by a WR, what good player hasn't been de-cleated (see Roidman and Maurice Jones Drew, that was nasty). Gholston is an animal he is relentless. The thing also is Gholston has ran in the high 4.4's and I believe at OSU's pro-day you are going to see some low numbers in the 40. The guy got 37reps on the bench, he tied Jake Long, and Vernon was disappointed because he though he would get at least 40. I would mess my pants if we got him, that would be awesome. Jim Heacock (D Coordinator at tOSU) said he was one of the best athletes he has ever seen at Ohio State, and that is saying a lot. Anyway I would be thrilled if we got him, but if we don't I hope we land someone else who will make a big impact.

I have to say thank you for the kind words-I really appreciate it. Flattery will get you everywhere.

Good take on Gholston. The guy really is a beast, who is going to command double teams. I don't know why some de-value someone with so much physical prowess.
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