****Royals @ Cards Game 1 Thread****

[epitome1170]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I have much more fun pointing out the fact that we stole a first ballot hall of famer out of your back yard. Nice scouting there, fellas.

Your and idiot!

This coming from a Cards fan: Pujols was not supposed/expected to be this good. The Cards staff passed on him how many rounds? TWELVE! To say we STOLE him out of their backyard is perhaps the most ignorant thing I have heard. I could understand if we got him in the first day of the draft, but we got him in the 13th round!! We took a flier and hit the jackpot... hardly stealing anything.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by epitome1170

Your and idiot!

This coming from a Cards fan: Pujols was not supposed/expected to be this good. The Cards staff passed on him how many rounds? TWELVE! To say we STOLE him out of their backyard is perhaps the most ignorant thing I have heard. I could understand if we got him in the first day of the draft, but we got him in the 13th round!! We took a flier and hit the jackpot... hardly stealing anything.

This makes the Royals' oversight even more egregious.

Face it, once your 10 rounds in, they're all flyers. So what makes the Cardinals any more likely than the Royals to take the right flyer, especially when Pujols was from right down the road.

The Royals had senior scouts that watched Pujols and passed on him (one of their engineers was Albert's roomate for cryin' out loud). Jazayerli even said that the Royals knew about Pujols but felt they needed pitchers to replace their struggling (and fast aging) staff.

Had they chosen not to take him in the first 3 rounds or so, I couldn't fault them for it, but when he's still sitting there in the 13th and you've had guys scouting him and you still don't see him as a worthy flyer (meanwhile the Cards, with no true ties to him, did); I'd say there was a difference in organizational aptitude there.

But really, nice try.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This makes the Royals' oversight even more egregious.

Face it, once your 10 rounds in, they're all flyers. So what makes the Cardinals any more likely than the Royals to take the right flyer, especially when Pujols was from right down the road.

The Royals had senior scouts that watched Pujols and passed on him (one of their engineers was Albert's roomate for cryin' out loud). Jazayerli even said that the Royals knew about Pujols but felt they needed pitchers to replace their struggling (and fast aging) staff.

Had they chosen not to take him in the first 3 rounds or so, I couldn't fault them for it, but when he's still sitting there in the 13th and you've had guys scouting him and you still don't see him as a worthy flyer (meanwhile the Cards, with no true ties to him, did); I'd say there was a difference in organizational aptitude there.

But really, nice try.

Ok, you are an idiot..

You just admitted that all the players in those rounds are flyers.. The whole damn MLB missed on him.. But keep telling your arrogant self that somehow the Cards organization knew something that no one else knew for 12 rounds..

Then lets add the fact that Pujols while great was not even the best player on his HS team (fort osage), they had stud pitching staff Hanna, Franca, one other person whose name slips my memory.. That 97 team was loaded with players all around..

Even at Maple Woods, where I went also with Pujols that team was loaded.. The guy turned into an amazing talent but to say other teams overlooked him is idiotic.. They guy did not look like he was going to be a HOF player while at those levels..


Enjoy the gem that fell in your laps..

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Ok, you are an idiot..

You just admitted that all the players in those rounds are flyers.. The whole damn MLB missed on him.. But keep telling your arrogant self that somehow the Cards organization knew something that no one else knew for 12 rounds..

Then lets add the fact that Pujols while great was not even the best player on his HS team (fort osage), they had stud pitching staff Hanna, Franca, one other person whose name slips my memory.. That 97 team was loaded with players all around..

Even at Maple Woods, where I went also with Pujols that team was loaded.. The guy turned into an amazing talent but to say other teams overlooked him is idiotic.. They guy did not look like he was going to be a HOF player while at those levels..


Enjoy the gem that fell in your laps..

I didn't say that the Cards knew something the rest of the league didn't; I said the Royals are extraordinarily stupid for NOT knowing something that the rest of the league didn't.

I repeat: They had a member of their organization LIVING WITH HIM. They had senior scouts watching him, they had guys within the organization who thought he was a good hitter but they were drafting for need (in the late rounds of the MLB baseball draft ?!?!?).

The fact that they didn't even take a flyer on him in the 10th is mind-boggling. Me saying that there's a difference in organizational aptitude is me stating that the Royals are the most poorly run franchise in the American league (fighting the Pirates for all of baseball). It's not saying that the Cardinals are full of sooth-sayers and talent scouting magicians.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I didn't say that the Cards knew something the rest of the league didn't; I said the Royals are extraordinarily stupid for NOT knowing something that the rest of the league didn't.

I repeat: They had a member of their organization LIVING WITH HIM. They had senior scouts watching him, they had guys within the organization who thought he was a good hitter but they were drafting for need (in the late rounds of the MLB baseball draft ?!?!?).

The fact that they didn't even take a flyer on him in the 10th is mind-boggling. Me saying that there's a difference in organizational aptitude is me stating that the Royals are the most poorly run franchise in the American league (fighting the Pirates for all of baseball). It's not saying that the Cardinals are full of sooth-sayers and talent scouting magicians.

Because he did not project into being a HOF type player..