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Old 07-11-2008, 08:38 AM   #1
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I figured somebody would. My example is clearly stated in the article above. I hate to say it but anyone that buys in to it is cheating themselves and the future of America. The key to opportunity and knowledge in America is Hard Work... not a free ride. We are only going to make ourselves less intelligent if we continue to coddle. The idea that minorities don't have the same opportunities as any one else these days is dangerous, irresponsible, and outdated.

...and I apologize for offending you.
Not saying we don't have the same opportunities in some departments (schooling) but within the workplace, you're not looking at facts here... You're basically telling me that only 5% (generous number) of minorities are competent enough to lead fortune 500 corps. If that's how you feel then that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

Having said that, since 95% of our fortune 500 CEO's and top level execs are white, how else would you ensure fair practices that a minority gets an equal chance at a position?

Again... Show me an example where a minority had preferential treatment over someone else while being under qualified for a position.

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Old 07-11-2008, 09:20 AM   #2
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Having said that, since 95% of our fortune 500 CEO's and top level execs are white, how else would you ensure fair practices that a minority gets an equal chance at a position?
Do the other 95% of non-whites desire to be CEOs of Fortune 500 companies?
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:23 AM   #3
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You just gotta love how this guy can't even admit his stupid mistake.

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Later, Price told MyFOXdfw.com that he believed it and other terms were racist.
"So if it's 'angel food cake,' it's white. If it's 'devil's food cake,' it's black. If you're the 'black sheep of the family,' then you gotta be bad, you know. 'White sheep,' you're okay. You know?" Price said.
Price said people should watch their words when it comes to stereotypes.
"I think people should always be careful. You know, I'm okay if I'm 'bartering' with you. ... But if I try to 'Jew you down,' Oooooh. Is that racist? I thought it meant the same thing? No, maybe it doesn't."
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:24 AM   #4
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You just gotta love how this guy can't even admit his stupid mistake.
Wow. What a fucking idiot.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:33 AM   #5
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Wow. What a fucking idiot.
So true it bears repeating.

Wow. What a fucking idiot.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:46 AM   #6
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Do the other 95% of non-whites desire to be CEOs of Fortune 500 companies?
Don't start your question asking reasoning method with me... If you have an opinion... state it. Otherwise stop asking questions to try to get me to double cross myself.

Having said that... do you think that minorities don't strive to be CEO's or upper level execs of corporations? Think before you ask.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:50 AM   #7
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Don't start your question asking reasoning method with me... If you have an opinion... state it. Otherwise stop asking questions to try to get me to double cross myself.

Having said that... do you think that minorities don't strive to be CEO's or upper level execs of corporations? Think before you ask.
I don't know. I'm not a minority. I would like to think they do, but I don't know.

Hence my question.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:57 AM   #8
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I don't know. I'm not a minority. I would like to think they do, but I don't know.

Hence my question.
Well if you think they'd do... isn't it safe to assume yes?
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:59 AM   #9
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Well if you think they'd do... isn't it safe to assume yes?
Okay, so if they do, what's stopping them? Racism?
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:00 AM   #10
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Okay, so if they do, what's stopping them? Racism?
In some cases yes which is why I'm for AA.

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Don't start your question asking reasoning method with me... If you have an opinion... state it. Otherwise stop asking questions to try to get me to double cross myself.

Having said that... do you think that minorities don't strive to be CEO's or upper level execs of corporations? Think before you ask.
I would say that only a small percentage of corporate management strive to be CEO. I certainly wouldn't want to be.

The person that would want to be in that position would be driven and probably wouldn't have too many issues getting a position like that somewhere, especially with board of director's wanting it to look good for them to have a CEO of a different gender or ethnicity.

Is it fair to promote someone above their capabilities?

Just because they are x or y?
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:00 AM   #13
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I would say that only a small percentage of corporate management strive to be CEO. I certainly wouldn't want to be.

The person that would want to be in that position would be driven and probably wouldn't have too many issues getting a position like that somewhere, especially with board of director's wanting it to look good for them to have a CEO of a different gender or ethnicity.

Is it fair to promote someone above their capabilities?

Just because they are x or y?
So what makes so many more whites want to be CEO's as opposed to minorities?
That doesn't make sense.
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So what makes so many more whites want to be CEO's as opposed to minorities?
That doesn't make sense.

That is a very good question that I don't have an answer.

Maybe it is a difference role models.

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And the other cases? Surely you acknowledge that not all minorities are capable of being CEOs, right, just like not all whites are? I don't think that stupidity and laziness are limited to one race.
Amen to that
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:06 AM   #15
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That is a very good question that I don't have an answer.

Maybe it is a difference role models.
Another dumbass statement. How many more you have?

Maybe it's because the upper echelon of corporations are usually white and are more apt to hire their own.

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