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Old 08-03-2008, 11:51 AM   #1
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It's sad that it took Grudz going down for Butler to get some time at 1B. He's been much better than I thought he'd be. Yesterday he made a nice tag play on an off-target throw from Aviles.
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:52 AM   #2
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It's sad that it took Grudz going down for Butler to get some time at 1B. He's been much better than I thought he'd be. Yesterday he made a nice tag play on an off-target throw from Aviles.
hes been playing good since the all star break, so really it was before grudz got hurt
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:53 AM   #3
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hes been playing good since the all star break, so really it was before grudz got hurt
No. He's been DHing. Yesterday was his first day back at first since the break.
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:55 AM   #4
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No. He's been DHing. Yesterday was his first day back at first since the break.
ok yea i see what your saying, i think i just misunderstood you
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:07 PM   #5
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:27 PM   #6
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It's sad that it took Grudz going down for Butler to get some time at 1B. He's been much better than I thought he'd be. Yesterday he made a nice tag play on an off-target throw from Aviles.
?? Grudz going down has nothing to do with Butler at first. It's all about Guillen not being able to play in the field.
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?? Grudz going down has nothing to do with Butler at first. It's all about Guillen not being able to play in the field.
What are talking about? Guillen has been in and out of the lineup since the break and Butler hasn't sniffed the field. Also, DeJesus going down affects this because Hillman seems reluctant, for some unknown reason, to take Gload out of the lineup.
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What are talking about? Guillen has been in and out of the lineup since the break and Butler hasn't sniffed the field.
I think what he meant was that they are forcing guillen to play DH and quit whining about the field. I think he gets more rest at DH than being out there all day long in the OF. Yes he can play but he has been suffering at the plate. I'd prefer that he stays at DH for now...

Also the injury to dejesus might be a reason too
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Also the injury to dejesus might be a reason too
Yeah, I edited my last post to speak to this point. This is probably the most accurate statement.

One thing seems certain, however, and that's Hillman loves him some Gload.
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What are talking about? Guillen has been in and out of the lineup since the break and Butler hasn't sniffed the field.
You are asking the wrong guy if you are looking for an explanation but both Hillman and Moore said yesterday the only reason Butler is playing at first is because they need Guillen's bat in the lineup and he can't play in the field. The moment Guillen can play in the outfield is the moment Butler moves back to DH.
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You are asking the wrong guy if you are looking for an explanation but both Hillman and Moore said yesterday the only reason Butler is playing at first is because they need Guillen's bat in the lineup and he can't play in the field. The moment Guillen can play in the outfield is the moment Butler moves back to DH.
Word. I hadn't heard that.

It's vital that we keep either Gload or Teahen in the lineup. Great idea to decide now that a 21 or 22 year old kid is a DH.
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Word. I hadn't heard that.

It's vital that we keep either Gload or Teahen in the lineup. Great idea to decide now that a 21 or 22 year old kid is a DH.
What is astonishing about it is the reasoning by both Moore and Hillman use on why Butler can't play first. It's only because Butler doesn't have as much range and Gload and they just can't have that defensive liability on the field . Moore also said they have no intention of ever playing Butler at first except in inter league play. Meanwhile, when discussing the 1b position, Moore said we absolutely need a guy hitting 25+ HR's there. And yet he starts Gload every single day . I don't want to doubt Moore as a GM but when he says things like this I kind of wonder...
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What is astonishing about it is the reasoning by both Moore and Hillman use on why Butler can't play first. It's only because Butler doesn't have as much range and Gload and they just can't have that defensive liability on the field . Moore also said they have no intention of ever playing Butler at first except in inter league play. Meanwhile, when discussing the 1b position, Moore said we absolutely need a guy hitting 25+ HR's there. And yet he starts Gload every single day . I don't want to doubt Moore as a GM but when he says things like this I kind of wonder...
This is troubling. Ranks right up there with his 2.5 mil. fans comment.

Hmm...I wonder if Butler is in Moore's long-term plans with this team? Dayton has tried to trade him once, so perhaps there's something about Butler's approach or attitude that Dayton can't stand.
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