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Old 11-24-2008, 11:08 AM  
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Dorsey sucks
Plain and simple.

Another bust of a DT

JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker?

Yeah

Not even close.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:38 PM   #181
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Come on folks. Way too early to call him a bust. It's rare that a defensive tackle has a great first year. Biggest reason? Most of them got by in college with strong legs and OK upper body strength. When they get to the NFL, they are going against the best every Sunday. The strong legs aren't enough. The upper body strength has to be there, too. Dorsey doesn't have that yet. Watch closely. He doesn't have that upper body to stand an offensive lineman up and push him around. Give him the offseason building the upper body. You'll see a big difference next year.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:51 PM   #182
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Come on folks. Way too early to call him a bust. It's rare that a defensive tackle has a great first year. Biggest reason? Most of them got by in college with strong legs and OK upper body strength. When they get to the NFL, they are going against the best every Sunday. The strong legs aren't enough. The upper body strength has to be there, too. Dorsey doesn't have that yet. Watch closely. He doesn't have that upper body to stand an offensive lineman up and push him around. Give him the offseason building the upper body. You'll see a big difference next year.
There's only one moron calling him a bust in this thread.
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Old 11-24-2008, 04:01 PM   #183
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I still think Dorsey can become a dominant DT, he just needs a supporting cast. If they would have been smart, they would have used him and Boone as the DTs, with Tank subbing in, but they thought using a slow-ass DT for a DE was the solution for a pass-rush. I also think Boone could have help guide Dorsey. Our managment of players is awful.
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Old 11-24-2008, 04:02 PM   #184
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Wasn't it Jerry Glanville that said it would take a natural disaster (or something like that) before he would play Bret Favre? I'm also pretty sure Favres first couple of passes in the NFL were INTS returned for TD's.

The point is, you can not call someone a bust during their initial season.
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:02 PM   #185
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There's only one moron calling him a bust in this thread.
yeah. Redbull's had one too many and he's all Caffeine hyped up.... and not really seeing what it takes to succeed in NFL. In a couple years of Ryan Simm like result..... it might be safe to say bust.
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:09 PM   #186
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the dude is thick...have you ever seen him...? the guy just won a NC and cried when a 4-12 team picked him...if that's not the kind of player you want, then i don't know what to tell you. He's gonna be a beast..

problem is..in college, it prolly didn't take much for him to dominate..but he's with the big boys now...a couple of years in the weight room...plus he doesn't give up on plays...he pursues runners and makes tackles...what kind of year do you think he would have if JA was lining up next to him?

you're just gonna have to be patient. or not.
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:35 PM   #187
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in 2003 sims had 38 tackles and 3 sacks.. then he tanked. just need dorsey to stay consistent and he will be fine
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:55 PM   #188
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Dorsey is playing the most physical position on the field. He's going up against big, big grown ass men. You can't expect a 23 year old to manhandle 28-32 year olds. He's going up against pro bowlers like Alan Faneca, Logan Mankins, and Kris Dielman. Give him time to grow!
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:00 PM   #189
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the dude is thick...have you ever seen him...? the guy just won a NC and cried when a 4-12 team picked him...if that's not the kind of player you want, then i don't know what to tell you. He's gonna be a beast..

problem is..in college, it prolly didn't take much for him to dominate..but he's with the big boys now...a couple of years in the weight room...plus he doesn't give up on plays...he pursues runners and makes tackles...what kind of year do you think he would have if JA was lining up next to him?

you're just gonna have to be patient. or not.
its nice to see him and tank do this. neither one gives up on plays. good thing to see in your DTs. both big guys who would never be noticed not chasing a qb or running back 20 yards downfield, yet there they are still
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:14 PM   #190
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If your DT is 20 yards downfield you have some pretty big problems.
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:17 PM   #191
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I think Dorsey will be great when he grows into the role a bit. I would love to have a nice 340 lb run stuffer lining up beside him though.
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:48 PM   #192
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Plain and simple.

Another bust of a DT

JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker?

Yeah

Not even close.
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:55 PM   #193
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If your DT is 20 yards downfield you have some pretty big problems.
Shows the shit we have at LB and S thats for.
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Dorsey is playing the most physical position on the field. He's going up against big, big grown ass men. You can't expect a 23 year old to manhandle 28-32 year olds. He's going up against pro bowlers like Alan Faneca, Logan Mankins, and Kris Dielman. Give him time to grow!
considering the Huge investment we have in him-I guess time is all we have.

He has not shown much of anything-but I guess we shall see.
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:15 AM   #195
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Yeah, those 9 sacks in 10 games started as a rookie really sucked. He wasn't any good.
Yeah, I missed that. I thought it was less his rookie year, my bad.
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