Rumor from Shanahan's son

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I havn't read you saying one fact other than blowing your mouth about how this sucks and that sucks, come with some facts other than a win/loss record for a coach who was under the reign of King Carl.

Yeah your right, nobody wants a coach the players playing the game have total respect for and will do anything to win for him and the fans. Please remember just how young of a group we truly have, I'm telling you nobody went into this season (maybe you) thinking we were even going to get close to competing and now everbody wants to act suprised and blow it up again!

Sorry but wins and loses are the MOST IMPORTANT stat you can go by for a HEAD COACH, especially after THREE FULL YEARS. What other stat is there for a Head Coach? Passes completed by Herm? Interceptions by Herm?

The man you support is a LOSER, evidenced by his record.

[KC4EVER]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Sorry but wins and loses are the MOST IMPORTANT stat you can go by for a HEAD COACH, especially after THREE FULL YEARS. What other stat is there for a Head Coach? Passes completed by Herm? Interceptions by Herm?

The man you support is a LOSER, evidenced by his record.

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

So how many more years does this guy get a ****ing pass?

[KC4EVER]

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

So how many more years does this guy get a ****ing pass?

Again, I think he's only had ONE true year to do what he wanted to do and at least give the man his last year to prove himself otherwise.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by KC4EVER

Again, I think he's only had ONE true year to do what he wanted to do and at least give the man his last year to prove himself otherwise.

**** that. The guy has proven that he can't do shit with "his" roster. Explain to me why players have REGRESSED under his coaching? He has thrown everyone possible under the bus. He has shown that he can't manage a game for shit. Herm Edwards is not a head coach....he's a PR man.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by KC4EVER

Again, I think he's only had ONE true year to do what he wanted to do and at least give the man his last year to prove himself otherwise.

With what coordinators? You see, if we hire new coordinators, it's like he didn't do his job well enough in the first place, otherwise why replace his stellar coaching staff that HE CHOSE? Maybe because they sucked ass under his tutelage and is reason enough to find his replacement. Add his abyssmal record as HC of the Chiefs and that's more than enough evidence to see he isn't the coach of the future.

[KC4EVER]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

With what coordinators? You see, if we hire new coordinators, it's like he didn't do his job well enough in the first place, otherwise why replace his stellar coaching staff that HE CHOSE? Maybe because they sucked ass under his tutelage and is reason enough to find his replacement. Add his abyssmal record as HC of the Chiefs and that's more than enough evidence to see he isn't the coach of the future.

No, he let his (Gailey) and Carls (Gun) coaches coach, you know the way a good coach does, with trust in them to do their job, coaching is no differant than playing, everybody must do their job.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by KC4EVER

No, he let his (Gailey) and Carls (Gun) coaches coach, you know the way a good coach does, with trust in them to do their job, coaching is no differant than playing, everybody must do their job.

Bullshit. Gunther, himself, said he WAS FORCED to run Herm's incompetent Cover Two out of respect for Herm, but he was NEVER comfortable with it. Guess that blows your argument out of the water and shows you for the most uninformed member of Chiefs Planet. The article was posted this very week.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by KC4EVER

No, he let his (Gailey) and Carls (Gun) coaches coach, you know the way a good coach does, with trust in them to do their job, coaching is no differant than playing, everybody must do their job.

Not according to Gun. Gun said that he was FORCED to run the zone scheme.

EDIT: Damn I'm slow...

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

Miami was able to turn it around in a year. Atlanta too. Why couldn't we?

[bowener]

Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

Ultimately life is unequivocally unfair, more so for some than others.

Chiefs fans being in the 'for some' category.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

He's had THREE YEARS, if he and the GM didn't see eye to eye, he could have easily declined the job, but he ACCEPTED, knowing full well what the circumstances were. He also had Croyle for longer than a year. Same with Hali, Tyler, McBride, Pollard, etc...These are HIS PLAYERS and he failed miserably with HIS guys.

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

He's had THREE YEARS, if he and the GM didn't see eye to eye, he could have easily declined the job, but he ACCEPTED, knowing full well what the circumstances were. He also had Croyle for longer than a year. Same with Hali, Tyler, McBride, Pollard, etc...These are HIS PLAYERS and he failed miserably with HIS guys.

[Lex Luthors]

Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

His last year with the Jets he went 4-12.

Did the Jets fail to give him a chance too?