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Old 02-09-2009, 07:47 PM  
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Nightmare Situation

Boo..

Ok lets say that the unspeakable happens and Stafford and Sanchez are both taken by pick 3.. What would you do?

With trading down basically impossible, who would you pick?

Personally I would take either Maclin or Jenkins…
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:47 PM   #31
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Because no one else represents a value to US after the QB's.

The 3 OT's are the only other players worthy of that pick, but only at LT. We have out LT, and you don't take a RT that high in the draft.

Crabtree is way to slow (and is proving it by avoiding running at the combine) to justify that pick. He's nowhere near the elite talent Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson or Fitzgerald were coming out.

It's bad value to take a LB that high, unless they project to be the next DT or LT. Curry is a coverbacker, and as much as I like Maualuga in the middle, it's way to high to take him.

That leaves us with Michael Jenkins at CB as the only true VALUE at our pick should both the QB's be gone.
What kind of time did AJ and Fitz run? I have been wondering this.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:56 PM   #32
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What kind of time did AJ and Fitz run? I have been wondering this.
Can't find anything official, I thought AJ ran a sub-4.4 time.



AJ: 4.43

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yers/1211.html

Fitz: 4.53

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ers/46239.html


FWIW, people are saying that Crabtree is not running because he'll turn in a time in excess of 4.65 in Indy, and he knows he can time better on a fast track at his pro day.

Basically, he's unwilling to run on a level playing field.
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:04 PM   #33
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Can't find anything official, I thought AJ ran a sub-4.4 time.



AJ: 4.43

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yers/1211.html

Fitz: 4.53

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ers/46239.html


FWIW, people are saying that Crabtree is not running because he'll turn in a time in excess of 4.65 in Indy, and he knows he can time better on a fast track at his pro day.

Basically, he's unwilling to run on a level playing field.
People are saying he would run a 4.65? No shit? Man, I don't see that when watching him play.
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:11 PM   #34
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People are saying he would run a 4.65? No shit? Man, I don't see that when watching him play.
The fastest time I've found for him this year is 4.55

http://www.gbnreport.com/2007wrs.html

I've seen reports that he ran a 4.45 at Lubbock his freshman year.

I've seen reports that he's been timed as high as 4.65.
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:21 PM   #35
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The fastest time I've found for him this year is 4.55

http://www.gbnreport.com/2007wrs.html

I've seen reports that he ran a 4.45 at Lubbock his freshman year.

I've seen reports that he's been timed as high as 4.65.
Oh, I believe you. Just surprising. Of course, Fitz plays MUCH faster than his 40 time too.
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:11 AM   #36
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Curry, Jenkins or Crabtree in that order. I guess Curry is the pick.
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:42 AM   #37
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Anybody else hoping Everett Brown performs great the combine and jumps up on the board? This guy is could be the next Ware, Suggs, Merriman, or maybe Allen depending on what type of defense we run. Given the scenario listed above this might be a good pick at 3, given he works out well.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:02 AM   #38
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My top 3 in this situation

1. Curry
2. Jenkins
3. Maclin
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:00 AM   #39
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wouldnt mind Orakpo or Brown..if there isnt a qb, or if we dont get qb..gotta get a pass rusher
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:00 AM   #40
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If you have to take a player in that spot you take Jenkins.
christ...imagine Jenkins, Flowers, Carr, and Leggett...add Taylor Mays at safety next year..**** getting sacks, let em throw it
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:53 AM   #41
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Well, this would be a nightmare scenario. If it went down like this, I'd be ok with taking Jenkins, but I would still be pissed. We HAVE to obtain a franchise QB.

In this scenario, I would be OK with trading a 3rd + a conditional next year for Cassel, and if that happened I would also be ok with taking Crabtree or Jenkins.

But I would still be disappointed...
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:42 AM   #42
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christ...imagine Jenkins, Flowers, Carr, and Leggett...add Taylor Mays at safety next year..**** getting sacks, let em throw it
with that secondary?!? absolutely.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:47 AM   #43
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The Jets can't be happy about losing Favre and a weak QB draft class in the same year.

I wonder if they are going to try to jump us and grab one of the QB's with SL or Det, knowing we are *probably* going to take a QB at #3??

Is there any chance of that happening? I'm thinking Kellen Clemons isn't their QBOTF.
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The Jets can't be happy about losing Favre and a weak QB draft class in the same year.

I wonder if they are going to try to jump us and grab one of the QB's with SL or Det, knowing we are *probably* going to take a QB at #3??

Is there any chance of that happening? I'm thinking Kellen Clemons isn't their QBOTF.
First, there's not way they can trade up far enough. Their entire draft is worth about 1500 points, and the 2nd pick is worth 2600.

Second, everything I've read is that the old regime really liked Ratliff. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them have an open competition between Clemens, Ratliff and Ainge and Ratliff being the starter on opening day.

If the new regime decides they don't like any of those guys pre-draft, I could see them trying to make a trade, but that's unlikely, IMO.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:14 PM   #45
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First, there's not way they can trade up far enough. Their entire draft is worth about 1500 points, and the 2nd pick is worth 2600.

Second, everything I've read is that the old regime really liked Ratliff. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them have an open competition between Clemens, Ratliff and Ainge and Ratliff being the starter on opening day.

If the new regime decides they don't like any of those guys pre-draft, I could see them trying to make a trade, but that's unlikely, IMO.
I'm not that informed about the value of the draft. Good stuff thanks!

I was looking at Clemons stats and they are horendous. If he would by chance become starter...I pity Thomas Jones and Leon Washington cause no one would respect their passing game.
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