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Old 02-11-2009, 12:41 PM   #1
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Yeah, I can question his toughness, when you're trying to equate it to him throwing a lot.

The stats bear this out: He's near or at the top when it comes to attempts over the past 3 years, and he's near or at the bottom when it comes to getting sacked.

He throws a lot, therefore he get's hit a lot is not a logically sound argument.
do you actually think that sacks tell the whole story?
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:49 PM   #2
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do you actually think that sacks tell the whole story?
They tell more of the story than ASSUMING that because he throws a lot, he gets hit a lot.

Peyton Manning rarely gets hit. Anyone who watches the Colts knows this.

Yet he throws the ball 500+ times a year, and is always near the top of the attempts list.

Shy of breaking down film of every Brees attempt, the stats, and knowing the offensive system the Saints use (interestingly, very similar to the Colts) have to be used to contract an argument.

But you can't sit here and assume that he gets hit a lot, FOR NO OTHER REASON than he throws a lot. That's terribly flawed logic.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:51 PM   #3
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They tell more of the story than ASSUMING that because he throws a lot, he gets hit a lot.

Peyton Manning rarely gets hit. Anyone who watches the Colts knows this.

Yet he throws the ball 500+ times a year, and is always near the top of the attempts list.

Shy of breaking down film of every Brees attempt, the stats, and knowing the offensive system the Saints use (interestingly, very similar to the Colts) have to be used to contract an argument.

But you can't sit here and assume that he gets hit a lot, FOR NO OTHER REASON than he throws a lot. That's terribly flawed logic.
the same can be said for what you are assuming. you dont know how many times he was hit do you? so you too are assuming. also look how many int's he throws. thats leaving a free shot on him open. my buddy is a huge saints fan and i've watched plenty of games. brees takes more hits than sacks
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:56 PM   #4
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the same can be said for what you are assuming. you dont know how many times he was hit do you? so you too are assuming. also look how many int's he throws. thats leaving a free shot on him open. my buddy is a huge saints fan and i've watched plenty of games. brees takes more hits than sacks
I'm not saying if he's not sacked, he's not getting hit.

But it's pretty fair to say that if he's not getting sacked more than once a game, he's probably not getting hit much.

I can deduct that based on his stats, and the type of offense they run.

YOU are ASSUMING he's getting hit for NO OTHER REASON than he throws a lot.

You have NOTHING to back up that assumption.

I do.

Case ****ing closed.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:24 PM   #5
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I'm not saying if he's not sacked, he's not getting hit.

But it's pretty fair to say that if he's not getting sacked more than once a game, he's probably not getting hit much.

I can deduct that based on his stats, and the type of offense they run.

YOU are ASSUMING he's getting hit for NO OTHER REASON than he throws a lot.

You have NOTHING to back up that assumption.

I do.

Case ****ing closed.
SO ACTUALLY you have nothing to back up what you are sying? you are assuming that because payton manning doesnt gat hit much and they run the same type of offense that brees isnt hit much. i have watched the saints quite a bit and yeah he gets hit
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