What's with the Thigpen fixation?

[Sam Hall]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

and then to use sacks as the only indication of how many times brees was HIT, not sacked hit. a qb can get hit no BLASTED and it not be a sack right?

Agreed. The Sanchez fanatics are going too far to make their point. Some of their points are legit, but sometimes they deny established truths about the league. That's what I don't like about the Planet lately. And I think the Chiefs should draft Sanchez.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Agreed. The Sanchez fanatics are going too far to make their point. Some of their points are legit, but sometimes they deny established truths about the league. That's what I don't like about the Planet lately. And I think the Chiefs should draft Sanchez.

me too, but to just look at one side is hilarious. in what 1300 pas attempts and to only get "hit" 29 times is just asinine to say. thats using one side to show youre right while conveniently forgetting that you dont have to be sacked to take a hit

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Agreed. The Sanchez fanatics are going too far to make their point. Some of their points are legit, but sometimes they deny established truths about the league. That's what I don't like about the Planet lately. And I think the Chiefs should draft Sanchez.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

me too, but to just look at one side is hilarious. in what 1300 pas attempts and to only get "hit" 29 times is just asinine to say. thats using one side to show youre right while conveniently forgetting that you dont have to be sacked to take a hit

Uh, I'm using statistics and knowledge of the offensive system he plays in to build a case.

You two are basing your case on nothing more than assumptions.

Feel free to come up with something more concrete than assumptions, and I'll be more than happy to listen.

I'm actually shocked that ANYONE would say that Drew Brees takes anywhere NEAR the number of hits that Ben Roethlisberger does.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Uh, I'm using statistics and knowledge of the offensive system he plays in to build a case.

You two are basing your case on nothing more than assumptions.

Feel free to come up with something more concrete than assumptions, and I'll be more than happy to listen.

I'm actually shocked that ANYONE would say that Drew Brees takes anywhere NEAR the number of hits that Ben Roethlisberger does.

you are taking half the stats and assuming the rest sacks dont= hits, i'm shocked that you refuse to acknowledge this

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

you are taking half the stats and assuming the rest sacks dont= hits, i'm shocked that you refuse to acknowledge this

No I'm not you ****ing nitwit.

I'm taking ALL the stats I'm offered, along with the knowledge that like Peyton Manning, Brees runs an offense that gets the ball out of the QB's hand quickly.

I'm not saying he doesn't take hits.

But to say he takes anywhere NEAR the amount of hits that Roethlisberger does is asinine.

[Sam Hall]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Uh, I'm using statistics and knowledge of the offensive system he plays in to build a case.

You two are basing your case on nothing more than assumptions.

Feel free to come up with something more concrete than assumptions, and I'll be more than happy to listen.

I'm actually shocked that ANYONE would say that Drew Brees takes anywhere NEAR the number of hits that Ben Roethlisberger does.

This is something else I've figured it out lately. The three or four Sanchez lovers tell us we're making assumptions because they don't want to admit that other posters have a good point.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

This is something else I've figured it out lately. The three or four Sanchez lovers tell us we're making assumptions because they don't want to admit that other posters have a good point.

This has nothing to do with Sanchez. WTF.....

This has everything to about someone saying that Brees would excel in Pittsburghs offense.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

This is something else I've figured it out lately. The three or four Sanchez lovers tell us we're making assumptions because they don't want to admit that other posters have a good point.

WTF does Sanchez have to do with this?

You've lost your ****ing mind.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Agreed. The Sanchez fanatics are going too far to make their point. Some of their points are legit, but sometimes they deny established truths about the league. That's what I don't like about the Planet lately. And I think the Chiefs should draft Sanchez.

WHAT?

Where has anyone mentioned Sanchez while debating your ridiculous statement that Brees would be just as effective in Pittsburgh as Rothlisberger?

WHAT THE ****?

[Sam Hall]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

WHAT?

Where has anyone mentioned Sanchez while debating your ridiculous statement that Brees would be just as effective in Pittsburgh as Rothlisberger?

WHAT THE ****?

This whole thing is about Sanchez and you know it. People like Brees don't deserve criticism just because you're hellbent on drafting Sanchez.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

This whole thing is about Sanchez and you know it. People like Brees don't deserve criticism just because you're hellbent on drafting Sanchez.

You are officially reeruned

[Sam Hall]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You are officially reeruned

The fact that you don't realize how hellbent you are about Sanchez proves how much of a problem you have. You and the other couple Sanchez fanatics have gone too far to make your point. And I want the Chiefs to draft Sanchez.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

WHAT?

Where has anyone mentioned Sanchez while debating your ridiculous statement that Brees would be just as effective in Pittsburgh as Rothlisberger?

WHAT THE ****?

Just because you say it's "ridiculous" doesn't make it so. I don't see what's ridiculous about the statement that Brees could do just as well. We're not talking about Joey Harrington here. We're talking about one of the top 3 most productive QBs in the league who happens to play in front of arguably one of the bottom 5 defenses in the league. And we're talking about a QB who spent most of the season without his top 2 wideouts and with his running backs injured all season.

And the blocking argument is definitely well within play. Basileus had a great point about the Pats' offensive line looking very human in 2008 without Brady. Brees is known for having one of the quickest releases in the game. Smart QBs are a lot harder to take down because they can smell the blitz from a mile away and exploit the living hell out of it. The Saints' o-line is nothing outstanding, but the QB makes them a lot better.

So let's flip this around. Could Big Ben be nearly as successful as he is now if he was in New Orleans? My guess would be a resounding "no."

[Sam Hall]

I'm willing to say both QBs get hit an equal amount, but I dispute the data about Brees.