When Does Free Agency Begin?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by philfree

I simply stated that Pioli and Haley will expect to win more then three games.


PhilFree

Again Phil, based on what, exactly?

[philfree]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Again Phil, based on what, exactly?

Based on the fact that I think they are competitive people. Do you think that they don't want to or expect to win more than 3 games? If so based on what?

PhilFree

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by philfree

Based on the fact that I think they are competitive people. Do you think that they don't want to or expect to win more than 3 games? If so based on what?

PhilFree

Based on the simple fact that the Chiefs have an extremely untalented roster, that Clark Hunt has said publicly that he wants to build his team through the draft AND develop a Franchise QB.

You're probably one of those guys who thought the Chiefs would win 8 games last year too, right? I predicted in May that they'd win no more than three games in 2008. Why? No QB, center, right guard, right tackle, RDE, and linebackers.

Guess what? I was right. AND they have still yet to address each of those needs. And guess what? They won't be addressed adequately in ONE OFF SEASON.

You can WISH all you want but the Chiefs will have an extremely difficult season ahead, even if the draft appears to have been successful. There is NO core of solid young players on this team at this point and it's going to take at least two more drafts before this team is legitimately competitive throughout an entire season.

Is that enough for you or should I go on?

[philfree]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Based on the simple fact that the Chiefs have an extremely untalented roster, that Clark Hunt has said publicly that he wants to build his team through the draft AND develop a Franchise QB.

You're probably one of those guys who thought the Chiefs would win 8 games last year too, right? I predicted in May that they'd win no more than three games in 2008. Why? No QB, center, right guard, right tackle, RDE, and linebackers.

Guess what? I was right. AND they have still yet to address each of those needs. And guess what? They won't be addressed adequately in ONE OFF SEASON.

You can WISH all you want but the Chiefs will have an extremely difficult season ahead, even if the draft appears to have been successful. There is NO core of solid young players on this team at this point and it's going to take at least two more drafts before this team is legitimately competitive throughout an entire season.

Is that enough for you or should I go on?

All that's nice but Clark, Pioli and Haley will want and expect to win more then 3 games in 2009. They'll expect that wether they sign a single free agent. So my point is not about how many games the Chiefs will win but about the attitude of the guys in charge. They'll want to win more then 3 games.

PhilFree

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by philfree

All that's nice but Clark, Pioli and Haley will want and expect to win more then 3 games in 2009. They'll expect that wether they sign a single free agent. So my point is not about how many games the Chiefs will win but about the attitude of the guys in charge. They'll want to win more then 3 games.

PhilFree

Again Phil, based on what? Your opinion?

They haven't publicly stated that their intent is to win games in 2009. Clark Hunt publicly stated that he wants to build through the draft and develop and draft a franchise QB.

That's NOT how you immediately win games, which is what you're suggesting.

I'm certain they'd LOVE IT if they won a few games along the way, but it's just asking way to much to replace all of the players they need in the 2009 offseason, just to be competitive week in and week out.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Again Phil, based on what? Your opinion?

They haven't publicly stated that their intent is to win games in 2009. Clark Hunt publicly stated that he wants to build through the draft and develop and draft a franchise QB.

That's NOT how you immediately win games, which is what you're suggesting.

I'm certain they'd LOVE IT if they won a few games along the way, but it's just asking way to much to replace all of the players they need in the 2009 offseason, just to be competitive week in and week out.

Yup based on my opinion. What's your basis for thinking that these guys won't want to win more then three games?


PhilFree

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by philfree

Yup based on my opinion. What's your basis for thinking that these guys won't want to win more then three games?


PhilFree

Gosh Phil, I guess I'm not making myself clear.

I never stated that the Chiefs would not want to win more than three games.

I stated that with their brutal 2009 schedule, coupled with the lack of talent currently existing on the roster at center, right guard, right tackle, WR, RB, RDE, linebacker and QB, it would be unreasonable for this Front Office to assume they'd win more than 5 games at best in 2009.

Is that clearer?

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Again Phil, based on what? Your opinion?

They haven't publicly stated that their intent is to win games in 2009. Clark Hunt publicly stated that he wants to build through the draft and develop and draft a franchise QB.

That's NOT how you immediately win games, which is what you're suggesting.

I'm certain they'd LOVE IT if they won a few games along the way, but it's just asking way to much to replace all of the players they need in the 2009 offseason, just to be competitive week in and week out.

Clark Hunt has most definitely said he expects to win games.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Clark Hunt has most definitely said he expects to win games.

When? Not this year. Last year, before the season began he said he expected to win games.

Unless I've missed something, I have not read a transcript or heard him publicly state that he expects to "win" in 2009.