When Does Free Agency Begin?

philfree · 02-15-2009, 12:51 PM

I think the Chiefs will be active in free agency this year. At least more so then last year.

PhilFree

milkman · 02-15-2009, 12:54 PM

Here's a list of all the important NFL dates.

Jan 15: Deadline for underclassmen Players to declare for the draft
Jan 18: Deadline for underclassmen to withdraw application for early entry to NFL draft
Jan 24: Senior Bowl
Feb 1: Super Bowl XLIII, Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, Fla.
Feb 5: Beginning of period in which teams can designate franchise and transition players - in progress
Feb 8: AFC-NFC Pro Bowl, Honolulu, Hawaii
Feb 18: NFL Scouting Combine, Indianapolis, Ind.
Feb 19: Deadline for designating franchise and transition players
Feb 24: Conclusion of NFL Scouting Combine
Feb 27: Free Agency starts, this includes:
- Deadline for submission of qualifying offers by clubs to their restricted free agents whose contracts have expired and to whom they desire to retain a right of first refusal/compensation
- Deadline for clubs to submit offer of minimum salary to retain exclusive negotiating rights to their players with fewer than three seasons of free agency credit whose contracts have expired
- Beginning of free-agent signing period (11 p.m. CST)
- Beginning of trade period (11 p.m. CST)
Mar 22-25: Annual owners meeting, Dana Point, Ca.
XXXX: Chiefs offseason condition program begins
Apr: 2009 regular-season schedule announced
Apr 15: Deadline to sign restricted free agents to offer sheets
Apr 21: Deadline for old clubs to exercise right of first refusal to restricted free agents.
Apr 25-26: NFL Draft, New York City, N.Y.
May 18-20: NFL Spring Meeting, Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
Jun 1:
- Deadline for old clubs to send tender to unsigned unrestricted free agents to receive exclusive negotiating rights for rest of the season if player is not signed by another club by July 22
- Deadline for old clubs to send tender to unsigned restricted free agents or to extend qualifying offer to retain exclusive negotiating rights
Jun: Chiefs organized team activities begin
Jun 15: Deadline for old clubs to withdraw original qualifying offer to unsigned restricted free agents and still retain exclusive negotiating rights by submitting tender of 110 percent of previous year's salary
Jun: Chiefs organized team activities end
Jul: NFL Rookie Symposium
Jul 22:
- Trade Deadline for franchise players
- Deadline for unsigned RFA/ERFA to sign with new clubs
Jul: Chiefs open training camp, University of Wisconsin, River Falls
Aug 9: First weekend of exhibition games
Aug: Chiefs break training camp, University of Wisconsin, River Falls
Aug: China Bowl: NE vs. SEA @ Beijing National Stadium, Beijing, China
Aug: Roster cutdown to maximum of 75 players
Aug: Roster cutdown to maximum of 53 players
Sept 3-6: Kickoff Week
Oct 25: International series: TB vs. NE @ Wembley Stadium, London, UK
Nov 12:
- Trade deadline
- FA signing deadline
Nov 26: Thanksgiving Day. One game to be played @ DAL (vs. OAK or SD). Game @ DET is questionable in 2009
Jan 9/10, 2010: Wildcard Weekend
Jan 16/17, 2010: Divisional Playoffs
Jan 23/24, 2010: Conference Championship
Feb 7, 2010: Super Bowl XLIV

philfree · 02-15-2009, 01:24 PM

Thanks man. Feb 27th.

I think Pioli and Haley as well as Clark will want to start winning games immediately so the Chiefs will be a little more active in free agency. Of course who we pick up in free agency will influence our needs come draft day.

PhilFree

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-15-2009, 08:01 PM

Nothing changes for Carl. He'll still be on vacation when it starts...

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-16-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Thanks man. Feb 27th.

I think Pioli and Haley as well as Clark will want to start winning games immediately so the Chiefs will be a little more active in free agency.

PhilFree

I completely and utterly disagree with this statement.

Clark Hunt has stated on several occasions that he wants to draft and develop not only a franchise QB, but a team as well. No more short term, high priced free agents. The days of Carl Peterson are over.

The Chiefs won't even be close to a winning football team until late in the 2010 football season at the earliest.

philfree · 02-16-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I completely and utterly disagree with this statement.

Clark Hunt has stated on several occasions that he wants to draft and develop not only a franchise QB, but a team as well. No more short term, high priced free agents. The days of Carl Peterson are over.

The Chiefs won't even be close to a winning football team until late in the 2010 football season at the earliest.

You don't think they will want to win games? I didn't say anything about being a winning football team although I'm prettty sure these guys don't think it's o.k. to suck just because they're rebuilding a team. That was last year. Also no where did I suggest we build a team with a bunch of high priced short term free agents. I stand by what I did say though and that is that the Chiefs will be a little more active in free agency. That doesn't mean they stop building through the draft. And you don't have to have a top 10 pick every year to build through the draft either.

PhilFree

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-16-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

You don't think they will want to win games? I didn't say anything about being a winning football team although I'm prettty sure these guys don't think it's o.k. to suck just because they're rebuilding a team. That was last year. Also no where did I suggest we build a team with a bunch of high priced short term free agents. I stand by what I did say though and that is that the Chiefs will be a little more active in free agency. That doesn't mean they stop building through the draft. And you don't have to have a top 10 pick every year to build through the draft either.

PhilFree

The Chiefs have the most talent depleted roster in the entire NFL. They played a bunch of young guys last year but that certainly isn't the end of the line. They need a QB, center, right guard, right tackle, RB, WR, LB's and a RDE before they will even be able to compete for a winning record (and that's not even addressing their lack of depth). That's NOT going to happen overnight, nor will it happen with one free agency period and another draft.

IF the Chiefs hit a home run in the draft, they'll probably win 5 games in 2009. If they don't, they may only win three.

There is NOT going to be a "quick-fix" in the 2009 off-season.

philfree · 02-16-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs have the most talent depleted roster in the entire NFL. They played a bunch of young guys last year but that certainly isn't the end of the line. They need a QB, center, right guard, right tackle, RB, WR, LB's and a RDE before they will even be able to compete for a winning record (and that's not even addressing their lack of depth). That's NOT going to happen overnight, nor will it happen with one free agency period and another draft.

IF the Chiefs hit a home run in the draft, they'll probably win 5 games in 2009. If they don't, they may only win three.

There is NOT going to be a "quick-fix" in the 2009 off-season.

You may be right in some of the things you say but Pioli and Haley will have a plan that includes winning more then 3 games.

PhilFree

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-16-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

You may be right in some of the things you say but Pioli and Haley will have a plan that includes winning more then 3 games.

PhilFree

Says who?

Clearly, you haven't been paying attention this off-season. There will be NO quick fixes. The Chiefs will address their needs through the draft. Furthermore, there are probably only three or four guys that could help the Chiefs in Free Agency and there's absolutely no guarantee that those guys would even sign with the Chiefs.

I just don't think you understand how talent depleted the roster is at this point.

That's not going to change overnight.

philfree · 02-16-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Says who?

Clearly, you haven't been paying attention this off-season. There will be NO quick fixes. The Chiefs will address their needs through the draft. Furthermore, there are probably only three or four guys that could help the Chiefs in Free Agency and there's absolutely no guarantee that those guys would even sign with the Chiefs.

I just don't think you understand how talent depleted the roster is at this point.

That's not going to change overnight.

I've paid as much attention as most anyone could. They will want to win more then 3 games rebuild/build or whatever you want to call it these guys will not want to start out where Herm and Carl left off. Now that doesn't say that they will abandon building through the draft. Now it might turn out that they only win three games but I'm pretty sure that will not be their plan.

PhilFree

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-16-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

I've paid as much attention as most anyone could. They will want to win more then 3 games rebuild/build or whatever you want to call it these guys will not want to start out where Herm and Carl left off. Now that doesn't say that they will abandon building through the draft. Now it might turn out that they only win three games but I'm pretty sure that will not be their plan.

PhilFree

Phil, it's called "reasonable expectations".

I think it would be highly unreasonable to suggest that a team that has won 6 games in 2 years, that is without a Franchise QB, Franchise RDE (pass rusher), the 31st ranked defense and an aging, disgruntled starting running back will win more than 5 games the following season.

Again, even IF the Chiefs hit on every draft choice, they have far too many holes on their team to win more than 5 games, tops. It's going to be a slow process.

It's NOT going to happen overnight.

philfree · 02-16-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Phil, it's called "reasonable expectations".

I think it would be highly unreasonable to suggest that a team that has won 6 games in 2 years, that is without a Franchise QB, Franchise RDE (pass rusher), the 31st ranked defense and an aging, disgruntled starting running back will win more than 5 games the following season.

Again, even IF the Chiefs hit on every draft choice, they have far too many holes on their team to win more than 5 games, tops. It's going to be a slow process.

It's NOT going to happen overnight.

Dane, you assume to much about what other posters think. No where have I said the Chiefs will make a quick turnaround and become an overnight playoff contender. I have not mentioned any win/loss record expectations of my own. I simply stated that Pioli and Haley will expect to win more then three games.

PhilFree

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-16-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

I simply stated that Pioli and Haley will expect to win more then three games.

PhilFree

Again Phil, based on what, exactly?

philfree · 02-16-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Again Phil, based on what, exactly?

Based on the fact that I think they are competitive people. Do you think that they don't want to or expect to win more than 3 games? If so based on what?

PhilFree

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-16-2009, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree

Based on the fact that I think they are competitive people. Do you think that they don't want to or expect to win more than 3 games? If so based on what?

PhilFree

Based on the simple fact that the Chiefs have an extremely untalented roster, that Clark Hunt has said publicly that he wants to build his team through the draft AND develop a Franchise QB.

You're probably one of those guys who thought the Chiefs would win 8 games last year too, right? I predicted in May that they'd win no more than three games in 2008. Why? No QB, center, right guard, right tackle, RDE, and linebackers.

Guess what? I was right. AND they have still yet to address each of those needs. And guess what? They won't be addressed adequately in ONE OFF SEASON.

You can WISH all you want but the Chiefs will have an extremely difficult season ahead, even if the draft appears to have been successful. There is NO core of solid young players on this team at this point and it's going to take at least two more drafts before this team is legitimately competitive throughout an entire season.

Is that enough for you or should I go on?

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