OK lets see it

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by RustShack

No dumbass, for the 100th time if you draft a ILB that high he better be a HOF player, the rules are different when you draft a position actually worth a top 5 pick.

Oh, so it's okay to draft some cheese dick that's a major reach because of serious holes in his game just because he plays a position that you think is important? Because that position is a bit more flashy than another? Courtney Brown ring a bell? Gaines Adams? David Carr? Ryan Sims? Charles Rogers? And I could go on and on and on.

**** that.

You should go buy a Redskins hat if that's the way you think. There's a team that drafts shit like that every year. You'd be in nirvana.

And besides, if you don't think that MLB is important, go tell the Bears and Ravens that they'd be a much better team without a guy like Urlacher and Lewis. That they weren't worth that first round pick. That a guy like Peter Warrick or Lawrence Phillips should have been the Bears or Ravens pick, respectively.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Oh, so it's okay to draft some cheese dick that's a major reach because of serious holes in his game just because he plays a position that you think is important? Because that position is a bit more flashy than another? Courtney Brown ring a bell? Gaines Adams? David Carr? Ryan Sims? Charles Rogers? And I could go on and on and on.

**** that.

You should go buy a Redskins hat if that's the way you think. There's a team that drafts shit like that every year. You'd be in nirvana.

And besides, if you don't think that MLB is important, go tell the Bears and Ravens that they'd be a much better team without a guy like Urlacher and Lewis. That they weren't worth that first round pick. That a guy like Peter Warrick or Lawrence Phillips should have been the Bears or Ravens pick, respectively.

So Gaines Adams is a bust already? God you're a ****ing dipshit. Let's just pick and choose players because they're busts.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

So Gaines Adams is a bust already? God you're a ****ing dipshit. Let's just pick and choose players because they're busts.

He's average the same amount of sacks and 20 less tackles per year than Tamba Hali, and people around here have no problem jumping all over Hali's ass for being a bust, especially when he was picked 16 slots lower than Adams.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

He's average the same amount of sacks and 20 less tackles per year than Tamba Hali, and people around here have no problem jumping all over Hali's ass for being a bust, especially when he was picked 16 slots lower than Adams.

Touche.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

He's average the same amount of sacks and 20 less tackles per year than Tamba Hali, and people around here have no problem jumping all over Hali's ass for being a bust, especially when he was picked 16 slots lower than Adams.

Hali also started for 3 years. Gaines Adams didn't start until halfway through his first year.

[bdeg]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

He's average the same amount of sacks and 20 less tackles per year than Tamba Hali, and people around here have no problem jumping all over Hali's ass for being a bust, especially when he was picked 16 slots lower than Adams.

adams has been going against lt's the whole time as their main threat. Tamba got almost all his sacks against RT's, with jared pressuring and drawing extra blocking.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Oh, so it's okay to draft some cheese dick that's a major reach because of serious holes in his game just because he plays a position that you think is important? Because that position is a bit more flashy than another? Courtney Brown ring a bell? Gaines Adams? David Carr? Ryan Sims? Charles Rogers? And I could go on and on and on.

**** that.

You should go buy a Redskins hat if that's the way you think. There's a team that drafts shit like that every year. You'd be in nirvana.

And besides, if you don't think that MLB is important, go tell the Bears and Ravens that they'd be a much better team without a guy like Urlacher and Lewis. That they weren't worth that first round pick. That a guy like Peter Warrick or Lawrence Phillips should have been the Bears or Ravens pick, respectively.

Urlacher taken 9th overall. Value difference between the 3rd and 9th pick: 850 points - equal to the 20th pick in the draft.

Lewis taken 26th overall. Value difference between the 3rd and 26th pick: 1500 points - equal to the 7th pick in the draft.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Urlacher taken 9th overall. Value difference between the 3rd and 9th pick: 850 points - equal to the 20th pick in the draft.

Lewis taken 26th overall. Value difference between the 3rd and 26th pick: 1500 points - equal to the 7th pick in the draft.

Okay Confucius, nice work with that abacus. What is your point anyway?

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Okay Confucius, nice work with that abacus. What is your point anyway?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Okay Confucius, nice work with that abacus. What is your point anyway?

Dear God.

Seriously?

Urlacher went 9th in a bad class. Lewis was the 4th LB taken in his class. Willis was taken 11th in a bad class.

And we're supposed to just drop our pants and take Curry at 3, crossing our fingers and hoping like hell he is better than all of them?

Because he HAS to be better than all of them to justify taking a goddamn INSIDE LINEBACKER with the THIRD overall pick in the draft.

Name the last ILB that was taken in the Top 3. I think there's been ONE in the past TWENTY years.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Dear God.

Seriously?

Urlacher went 9th in a bad class. Lewis was the 4th LB taken in his class. Willis was taken 11th in a bad class.

And we're supposed to just drop our pants and take Curry at 3, crossing our fingers and hoping like hell he is better than all of them?
Because he HAS to be better than all of them to justify taking a goddamn INSIDE LINEBACKER with the THIRD overall pick in the draft.

Name the last ILB that was taken in the Top 3.

And that's different then reaching for a player because his position is considered more valuable even though he isn't good enough to be picked that high? Eh---yeah he sucks but the position he plays holds a high value so he's our pick.


PhilFree

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by philfree

And that's different then reaching for a player because his position is considered more valuable even though he isn't good enough to be picked that high? Eh---yeah he sucks but the position he plays holds a high value so he's our pick.


PhilFree

Interesting, I've read multiple articles saying Everette Brown could be a top 5 pick, but I guess thats too much of a reach. Orakpo who I don't want, is ranked at #4 on Scouts Inc, but thats probably too much of a reach too.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by philfree

And that's different then reaching for a player because his position is considered more valuable even though he isn't good enough to be picked that high? Eh---yeah he sucks but the position he plays holds a high value so he's our pick.


PhilFree

I'm not sure how many times this has to be said...

You have NO IDEA what Pioli's draft board looks like. How are you determining who would be a "reach?"

Oh yeah, piggybacking off of Kiper or Mayock.

For all you know, Pioli has Rey Maualuga rated higher than Jesus Curry.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm not sure how many times this has to be said...

You have NO IDEA what Pioli's draft board looks like. How are you determining who would be a "reach?"

Oh yeah, piggybacking off of Kiper or Mayock.

For all you know, Pioli has Rey Maualuga rated higher than Jesus Curry.

I believe the same applies to you so what's your point. Pioli & Co. could also have Curry rated as the top player on their board for all you know.

PhilFree

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Dear God.

Seriously?

Urlacher went 9th in a bad class. Lewis was the 4th LB taken in his class. Willis was taken 11th in a bad class.

And we're supposed to just drop our pants and take Curry at 3, crossing our fingers and hoping like hell he is better than all of them?

Because he HAS to be better than all of them to justify taking a goddamn INSIDE LINEBACKER with the THIRD overall pick in the draft.

Name the last ILB that was taken in the Top 3. I think there's been ONE in the past TWENTY years.

Jesus, you whine like a bitch. All you seem to be able to do is bag on anyone who mentions taking Curry with the #3 pick and whenever pressed for your selection, all you can say is the most non-sensical of all picks - Sanchez.

I mean, seriously. You saying that you'd pick Sanchez, even after the Chiefs traded for Cassel, and then giving shit to people who want to draft Curry is the most hypocritical, dipshitiest thing I've seen on this topic.