Chiefs Would you give up a late rd pick for Vick's rights? - Page 4

ferrarispider95 · 04-25-2009, 12:24 PM

Espn reported that Atlanta is shopping the rights to Vick? Would you toss out a 6th or 7th round pick?

If you deal with the PR nightmare, dude would be a beast coming in situational spots. Throw in the wildcat and you have a legitimate pass option.

tyton75 · 06-01-2009, 08:35 AM

While I agree that he has paid his time and should get another shot.. I wouldn't want him on my team.

but whoever gets him.. he would probably best be used exactly the same way Reggie Bush is used in New Orleans. Unless his ass looks like Elephant ears after the time in the pen.

Otter · 06-01-2009, 08:36 AM

Tebow is going to be in the draft next year. Why would you want Vick?

JD10367 · 06-01-2009, 08:45 AM

Okay. Personally, I despise Vick. I think he's overrated, and I love dogs, and I hope a pitbull takes a chunk out of his ass someday in retribution for the species.

Having said all that: he does have some on-field value, especially with the popularity of the Wildcat again thanks to teams like Miami. As a receiver, a running back, or just a change-of-pace QB, he would have to be gameplanned for, and anything that gives your opponent something else to think about is worth considering.

Especially since he'd come pretty cheap, and--the Tom Bradys of the world aside--you usually don't find much of value with a 6th- or 7th-round pick.

Now, there would certainly be a stigma to signing him, not to mention a media circus, and a fan uproar from both the fans of the team he's on as well as the enemy fans. (I wonder how many Milk-Bones he's gonna get thrown at him.) And I'm not sure a young, rebuilding team needs that sort of headache. A team like the Patriots or Steelers or Colts could probably weather the storm and make it worth their while to have him around. However, ironically, a team like that also wouldn't NEED him around. So it's sort of a Catch-22: he'd be more help to a Kansas City than an Indy or Pittsburgh, but he'd also be more of a headache for Kansas City than for Indy or Pittsburgh.

I'm really on the fence. I think he's paid his debt to society, at least in terms of what the legal system demanded of him. So he's perfectly entitled to give the NFL another try, if someone will take him. I'm just not sure I'd want him on a team I like... or a team I hate.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 06-01-2009, 08:48 AM

Again, he's positively going to end up in Atlanta West. I'd bet money on it.

kcbubb · 06-01-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by stlchiefs

Man, I am genuinely surprised by the responses in this thread. I'm a dog lover and owner and I would gladly take Vick on the team as a slash type of weapon, especially for a 7th rd pick.

The guy has done more time than any one person would have served for similar crimes, will have the ongoing problems of being a felon for the rest of his life and people still want to punish him further? He did the crime and he did his time, isn't that what society asks for? RayRay and Leonard Little both killed people and where is the PR nightmare and backlash regarding this, THAT is what I find more disgusting than anything. Little has been in the league for years since killing a MOTHER and it appears to be a forgiven or at least forgotten thing.

This...

The double standards that people have for animals is ridiculous.

Is this question assuming that Vick will take a huge pay cut? His big money contract is still in affect for his future if he is traded for isn't it????

Chief Faithful · 06-01-2009, 09:08 AM

No to Vick the citizen and football player. Keep him out of KC.

**Old Dog** · 06-01-2009, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrarispider95

Hey, throw out the PR nightmare.....

Hey, throwing out that little assassination thing Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

Mile High Mania · 06-01-2009, 09:10 AM

That's just one giant bell I wouldn't like for my team to ring...

CoMoChief · 06-01-2009, 09:12 AM

Rams have Leonard Little, hell why not sign Vick?

HC_Chief · 06-01-2009, 09:17 AM

HELL NO.

BarrySPAMAID · 06-01-2009, 04:08 PM

Again, No.

Mr. Krab · 06-01-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrarispider95

Hey, throw out the PR nightmare, and throw in that he would be reinstated immediately, where are you going to find Vick value in the 7th round???

I believe it's the contract that's the part of the issue.

RJ · 06-01-2009, 04:16 PM

I'd be ok with it, depending on the draft pick and the salary. Not crazy about it, but ok with it. I'd call it a worthwhile roll of the dice.

And yes, as a matter of fact I am a dog lover. Got two of them myself.

kaplin42 · 06-01-2009, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb

This...

The double standards that people have for animals is ridiculous.

Is this question assuming that Vick will take a huge pay cut? His big money contract is still in affect for his future if he is traded for isn't it????

The double standard is not ridiculous. Animals have no protection against humanity. They don't have free will, nor the means to defend themselves other than what nature gives them, which when compared to the "tools" mankind can bring to the table, they don't stand a chance. What Vick did was heinous. And those who follow in his footsteps deserve to be treated equally as horrible as they treat their dogs.

Vick may have paid his debt to society, but I don't give a shit. Let that dumb mother****er work at 7-11 for the rest of his life.

Deberg_1990 · 06-01-2009, 04:45 PM

Id take him. Hes worth a 6th or 7th rounder no doubt.

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06-01-2009, 08:35 AM	#46
tyton75 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3718386	While I agree that he has paid his time and should get another shot.. I wouldn't want him on my team. but whoever gets him.. he would probably best be used exactly the same way Reggie Bush is used in New Orleans. Unless his ass looks like Elephant ears after the time in the pen. __________________
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06-01-2009, 08:45 AM	#48
JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	Okay. Personally, I despise Vick. I think he's overrated, and I love dogs, and I hope a pitbull takes a chunk out of his ass someday in retribution for the species. Having said all that: he does have some on-field value, especially with the popularity of the Wildcat again thanks to teams like Miami. As a receiver, a running back, or just a change-of-pace QB, he would have to be gameplanned for, and anything that gives your opponent something else to think about is worth considering. Especially since he'd come pretty cheap, and--the Tom Bradys of the world aside--you usually don't find much of value with a 6th- or 7th-round pick. Now, there would certainly be a stigma to signing him, not to mention a media circus, and a fan uproar from both the fans of the team he's on as well as the enemy fans. (I wonder how many Milk-Bones he's gonna get thrown at him.) And I'm not sure a young, rebuilding team needs that sort of headache. A team like the Patriots or Steelers or Colts could probably weather the storm and make it worth their while to have him around. However, ironically, a team like that also wouldn't NEED him around. So it's sort of a Catch-22: he'd be more help to a Kansas City than an Indy or Pittsburgh, but he'd also be more of a headache for Kansas City than for Indy or Pittsburgh. I'm really on the fence. I think he's paid his debt to society, at least in terms of what the legal system demanded of him. So he's perfectly entitled to give the NFL another try, if someone will take him. I'm just not sure I'd want him on a team I like... or a team I hate.
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06-01-2009, 09:08 AM	#51
Chief Faithful Predicting Chiefs Victory Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9966500	No to Vick the citizen and football player. Keep him out of KC.
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06-01-2009, 09:10 AM	#53
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $927229	That's just one giant bell I wouldn't like for my team to ring... __________________
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06-01-2009, 09:12 AM	#54
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	Rams have Leonard Little, hell why not sign Vick?
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06-01-2009, 09:17 AM	#55
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	HELL NO. __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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06-01-2009, 04:08 PM	#56
BarrySPAMAID Barryspamaid.com Join Date: May 2009 Location: St.Peters, MO Casino cash: $10004900	Again, No.
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06-01-2009, 04:16 PM	#58
RJ Supporter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In a shotgun shack Casino cash: $9895202	I'd be ok with it, depending on the draft pick and the salary. Not crazy about it, but ok with it. I'd call it a worthwhile roll of the dice. And yes, as a matter of fact I am a dog lover. Got two of them myself.
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $124454	Id take him. Hes worth a 6th or 7th rounder no doubt.
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