Turk McBride Gone....

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Dorsey was a goddamned rookie DT in the 4-3. He had the same kind of rookie year that basically every other rookie DT had. He had numbers almost identical to the player he was most compared to in the pre-draft process, Warren Sapp. We would have switched to the 3-4 regardless of whatever talent we had, because the FO was by-god-****ing-damned and determined to switch to it.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Dorsey was a goddamned rookie DT in the 4-3. He had the same kind of rookie year that basically every other rookie DT had. He had numbers almost identical to the player he was most compared to in the pre-draft process, Warren Sapp. We would have switched to the 3-4 regardless of whatever talent we had, because the FO was by-god-****ing-damned and determined to switch to it.

Did Belichick install the 3-4 in NE right off the bat?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Did Belichick install the 3-4 in NE right off the bat?

No.

[Mecca]

We were always going to end up as a 3-4 team, that's what the NE guys do.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Mecca

We were always going to end up as a 3-4 team, that's what the NE guys do.

Exactly.

Jared Allen would have been traded, regardless.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Mecca

We were always going to end up as a 3-4 team, that's what the NE guys do.

The Falcons are in a 43.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The Falcons are in a 43.

Dimitroff, as many of have said, is the one guy who didn't do it the way of a geometric proof. Ironically, he's also the only one to leave and have immediate success. Are the two correlated? Maybe, maybe not.

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of a little mind"

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Dimitroff, as many of have said, is the one guy who didn't do it the way of a geometric proof. Ironically, he's also the only one to leave and have immediate success. Are the two correlated? Maybe, maybe not.

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of a little mind"

True. He's a pretty singular anomaly in an otherwise fairly consistent model of the guys that have left New England.

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out, because so far, he's not just the only one to have immediate success, he's the only one to have ANY success.

[Miles]

Kinda sucks that Turk is gone in the sense that he did show a few signs of being solid last season and is a likeable guy/story. Still the attempted shift to LB showed he had no place in this defense before camp even started.

[Chiefnj2]

Thanks Herm,

"Sitting in front of his stall in the Reliant Stadium visitors' locker room, Leon Washington kept shaking his head, trying to find the words.

The Jets had just run for 190 yards in their season-opening 24-7 win over the Texans. As the conversation turned to fullback Tony Richardson, Washington had to take a few moments to find the way to appropriately describe just how vital Richardson was to the ground game.

"Man, look here," Washington said. "You find a better fullback over the last . . . I mean this guy has been playing for 16 years. He's blocked for a lot of great ones. I've got nothing but love and respect for that guy. That guy comes out every day, and every game he does his job and it seems like he's got another eight years in him."

That's probably the last thing any opponent wants to hear. The 6-1, 238-pound Richardson is still going strong at age 37, showing no sign of slowing down. He was hampered a bit in the preseason after suffering a hip pointer on the first day of tackling drills in training camp up in Cortland. But he's bounced back nicely, serving as the lead blocker and bowling ball that knocks the pins down to pave the way for the Jets' stable of running backs.

Richardson, who's in his second year with the Jets, had two crushing blocks that sprung Thomas Jones on his way to a 106-yard, two-touchdown performance in the second half. On Jones' 38-yard touchdown run, he clocked Nick Ferguson as the safety was coming in from the right side, leveling him so hard that Ferguson crumpled to the turf.

He also sealed the right side of the line beautifully on Jones' 39-yard burst midway through the fourth quarter, locking up cornerback Brice McCain to give Jones a gaping hole to run through.

"There were some plays earlier in the first half that I was like, dang, I wish I would have gotten a better hit on this guy or whatever," Richardson said. "But that's just how the running game is. It's violent and really it's not always going to be perfect."

[Reerun_KC]

Herm is the gift that keeps on giving...

[The Franchise]

Is there a possibility that if Allen was still here when the new regime took over.....that we would have stayed with the 4-3?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Is there a possibility that if Allen was still here when the new regime took over.....that we would have stayed with the 4-3?

I think that Jared Allen, much like Tony Gonzalez, wouldn't be into the whole "changing of the culture thing". I think he would have been traded because these guys (Pioli, Haley and the defensive staff) are all 3-4 guys.

Plus, putting Allen in the 3-4 just wouldn't and couldn't maximize his talents. It would be a waste and I think that he'd turn into a malcontent, which would not sit well with this regime.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think that Jared Allen, much like Tony Gonzalez, wouldn't be into the whole "changing of the culture thing". I think he would have been traded because these guys (Pioli, Haley and the defensive staff) are all 3-4 guys.

Plus, putting Allen in the 3-4 just wouldn't and couldn't maximize his talents. It would be a waste and I think that he'd turn into a malcontent, which would not sit well with this regime.

I agree.

I think they would have gone 3-4 regardless and Jared might not have had a good place to fit.

But your first sentence is the most important IMO. It's quite possible that Jared wouldn't have meshed with Haley and Pioli - much like Waters and Gonzo, he had accomplished quite a bit personally, and he probably wouldn't have appreciated the style.

[L.A. Chieffan]

why would anybody miss this guy? he did nothing for us...NOTHING