Chiefs Turk McBride Gone.... - Page 14

aturnis · 09-15-2009, 02:41 PM

Wade in.

RippedmyFlesh · 09-15-2009, 11:49 PM

Freeney when he was younger would be the kind of de that could make that switch. Thats where I thought he might play coming out of school. Prob a bit short though he's only 6'1. He's 268 now but was closer to 250 when he came out.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-15-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Maybe.

He wouldn't have sucked with the Giants, either.

Or the Jets with Rex Ryan.

Allen with them this year would be ****ing sick. That team that the Vikes have been promising/projected to be for the last two years? The one that just needed a good QB to make the legitimate run?

That's New York right now. I honestly think they are going **** the Patriots world up this week. They are going to physically and defensively bloody them. Beat them down. They'll have their problems with Brady( who doesn't? ), but they will be WAY more up his ass than Buffalo, and I guarantee you will NOT see any boneheaded bullshit game-killers like McKelvin pulled under Rex Ryan.
That team is a true sleeper in the NFL right now. And they're hungry. And they're starting to believe in themselves and that they can do this because of their coach and their QB.
If they beat New England this week, I can guarantee you will see them in the post season.

Edit:

This just in.

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(has some quotes from Randy Moss) talking about facing the Jets. Moss was respectful, and seems to relish the game this weekend against Rex and the rest of the Jets.

Asked Monday night about facing off against the Jets, New England wide receiver Randy Moss said, “I can remember Coach Ryan talking about he ain’t coming to kiss no rings so I think it’s gonna be a big game. . . . I think we have our work cut out for us. The Jets defense has really picked up, they got that rookie quarterback in [Mark Sanchez] so it’s gonna be a barnburner.”

Moss said he has no issue with Ryan’s comments.

“I’ve always been a fan of the Ryan brothers,” he said. “I was in Oakland with Rob [now the defensive coordinator in Cleveland] and I played a couple times [against] Rex in Baltimore and I met old Buddy so I think that [Rex] really meant what he said and I think that he has a really good team backing him.”

DaWolf · 09-15-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It doesn't matter.

Jared Allen would have been traded this year because he's really not suited for the 3-4. I'm sure he would have done "okay" but he's really suited for the 4-3.

If Jared Allen were still here I doubt we'd be switching to the 3-4.

I think one of the main reasons we're switching to a 3-4 was that the guys got in here and decided that this defensive roster in essence had little to no talent to run an effective 3-4 OR 4-3 scheme, and therefore they might as well clean house and essentially start over.

Hali had been a disaster in the 4-3 without Allen. Dorsey wasn't doing anything. DJ wasn't doing anything special.

But if Jared Allen were still here, I think they'd be more inclined to try and put in some pieces around him and keep the 4-3 scheme.

But really, Carl and Herm and Gunther did such a spectacular job of ****ing up this defensive front seven that there was really no clear elite building block there. You might as well dump the trash and start over...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-16-2009, 12:02 AM

Dorsey was a goddamned rookie DT in the 4-3. He had the same kind of rookie year that basically every other rookie DT had. He had numbers almost identical to the player he was most compared to in the pre-draft process, Warren Sapp. We would have switched to the 3-4 regardless of whatever talent we had, because the FO was by-god-****ing-damned and determined to switch to it.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-16-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Dorsey was a goddamned rookie DT in the 4-3. He had the same kind of rookie year that basically every other rookie DT had. He had numbers almost identical to the player he was most compared to in the pre-draft process, Warren Sapp. We would have switched to the 3-4 regardless of whatever talent we had, because the FO was by-god-****ing-damned and determined to switch to it.

Did Belichick install the 3-4 in NE right off the bat?

dj56dt58 · 09-16-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Funny, all I heard for three years was how Herm had this great eye for talent and how our drafts had improved under him.

the sad thing is...they did improve

Ralphy Boy · 09-16-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

It's too bad Pioli wasn't hired a year earlier with all those picks this team woulda been a contender for the playoffs this year.

Great way to try and end one thread that morphed into an alternate reality world. Now there is going to be 3 or 4 more threads about who we would have drafted? Would we even have traded Allen? Haley was nobody then, who would our coach be?

09-16-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

This.

You know what Dane, Im not sure why people give you so much shit.

People are insecure. Dane threatens some of them. They can't handle the braggadocious.

Mecca · 09-16-2009, 12:45 AM

We were always going to end up as a 3-4 team, that's what the NE guys do.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-16-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

We were always going to end up as a 3-4 team, that's what the NE guys do.

Exactly.

Jared Allen would have been traded, regardless.

Miles · 09-16-2009, 01:06 AM

Kinda sucks that Turk is gone in the sense that he did show a few signs of being solid last season and is a likeable guy/story. Still the attempted shift to LB showed he had no place in this defense before camp even started.

cookster50 · 09-16-2009, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Nick Wright just cut himself.

I don't know how anyone can stand to listen to that voice for longer than the 2 seconds it takes to recognize and then switch the station.

Chiefnj2 · 09-16-2009, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Theres alot of people who still think trading Tony Gonzalez for a 2nd round pick was a bad trade.

Don't you think you should wait and see what they do with that pick before coming to a conclusion that it was good or bad?

Chiefnj2 · 09-16-2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

We were always going to end up as a 3-4 team, that's what the NE guys do.

The Falcons are in a 43.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-16-2009, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Did Belichick install the 3-4 in NE right off the bat?

No.

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