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Old 09-15-2009, 02:41 PM  
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:13 AM   #211
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Dimitroff, as many of have said, is the one guy who didn't do it the way of a geometric proof. Ironically, he's also the only one to leave and have immediate success. Are the two correlated? Maybe, maybe not.

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Old 09-16-2009, 07:40 AM   #212
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"Sitting in front of his stall in the Reliant Stadium visitors' locker room, Leon Washington kept shaking his head, trying to find the words.

The Jets had just run for 190 yards in their season-opening 24-7 win over the Texans. As the conversation turned to fullback Tony Richardson, Washington had to take a few moments to find the way to appropriately describe just how vital Richardson was to the ground game.

"Man, look here," Washington said. "You find a better fullback over the last . . . I mean this guy has been playing for 16 years. He's blocked for a lot of great ones. I've got nothing but love and respect for that guy. That guy comes out every day, and every game he does his job and it seems like he's got another eight years in him."

That's probably the last thing any opponent wants to hear. The 6-1, 238-pound Richardson is still going strong at age 37, showing no sign of slowing down. He was hampered a bit in the preseason after suffering a hip pointer on the first day of tackling drills in training camp up in Cortland. But he's bounced back nicely, serving as the lead blocker and bowling ball that knocks the pins down to pave the way for the Jets' stable of running backs.

Richardson, who's in his second year with the Jets, had two crushing blocks that sprung Thomas Jones on his way to a 106-yard, two-touchdown performance in the second half. On Jones' 38-yard touchdown run, he clocked Nick Ferguson as the safety was coming in from the right side, leveling him so hard that Ferguson crumpled to the turf.

He also sealed the right side of the line beautifully on Jones' 39-yard burst midway through the fourth quarter, locking up cornerback Brice McCain to give Jones a gaping hole to run through.

"There were some plays earlier in the first half that I was like, dang, I wish I would have gotten a better hit on this guy or whatever," Richardson said. "But that's just how the running game is. It's violent and really it's not always going to be perfect."
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:21 AM   #213
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:00 AM   #214
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I can see that he maybe doesn't have the "functional strength", but I did go back to look at some draft info to see how some of his weightroom strength compared to that of Jackson & Dorsey. Much to my surprise, he had 27 reps of 225 at the combine and 30 on his pro day. Dorsey did 27 at his pro day while Jackson only had 20. Not that it translates into playing strength, but I would think he stood a better chance at making the team if he had been asked to bulk up and play end.

Considering the guy played DE & DT (mostly DT) in college, never played LB until this summer and is no longer with the team, it is clear to me that making a LB out of him was not the solution. Obviously the coaches know a lot more than me, but a guy we apparently wasted a 2nd rounder on is no longer with the team and it sucks.

His numbers (40 yard, 3 cone, 20 yard shuttle etc) were far and away better than Dorsey. Again, while that doesnt translate to play on the field, I don't buy the idea that the new regime could care less about where a player was drafted.

I won't be surprised if he does well on another team as a DE, but the guy had 1 sack in his 15 game career, so I'm not going to cry over it.
Strength at the point of attack is usually much more about lower body strength and leverage, therefore bench press reps aren't totally meaningful.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:00 AM   #215
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Are you also a fan of Carlos Mencia and/or Dane Cook?

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But Stephen Lynch is fuh-knee.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:02 AM   #216
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Yeah, and he already had two before that.

Sorry people, it was the right move.
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Allen in the 3-4 would be like Aaron Kampman in the 3-4 I think he'll be successful but he won't be as good as he was in the 4-3.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:07 AM   #217
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Dimitroff, as many of have said, is the one guy who didn't do it the way of a geometric proof. Ironically, he's also the only one to leave and have immediate success. Are the two correlated? Maybe, maybe not.

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of a little mind"
True. He's a pretty singular anomaly in an otherwise fairly consistent model of the guys that have left New England.

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out, because so far, he's not just the only one to have immediate success, he's the only one to have ANY success.
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Is there a possibility that if Allen was still here when the new regime took over.....that we would have stayed with the 4-3?
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:14 AM   #219
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Is there a possibility that if Allen was still here when the new regime took over.....that we would have stayed with the 4-3?
I think that Jared Allen, much like Tony Gonzalez, wouldn't be into the whole "changing of the culture thing". I think he would have been traded because these guys (Pioli, Haley and the defensive staff) are all 3-4 guys.

Plus, putting Allen in the 3-4 just wouldn't and couldn't maximize his talents. It would be a waste and I think that he'd turn into a malcontent, which would not sit well with this regime.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:19 AM   #221
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Cool white guys that listen to country music, drink beer, hunt and play in the NFL are in short supply.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:21 AM   #222
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i was talking about turk. i see now the convo switched over to jared. yeah, im pissed we let him go but it was inevitable is my take on that one
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I think that Jared Allen, much like Tony Gonzalez, wouldn't be into the whole "changing of the culture thing". I think he would have been traded because these guys (Pioli, Haley and the defensive staff) are all 3-4 guys.

Plus, putting Allen in the 3-4 just wouldn't and couldn't maximize his talents. It would be a waste and I think that he'd turn into a malcontent, which would not sit well with this regime.
I agree.

I think they would have gone 3-4 regardless and Jared might not have had a good place to fit.

But your first sentence is the most important IMO. It's quite possible that Jared wouldn't have meshed with Haley and Pioli - much like Waters and Gonzo, he had accomplished quite a bit personally, and he probably wouldn't have appreciated the style.
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i was talking about turk. i see now the convo switched over to jared. yeah, im pissed we let him go but it was inevitable is my take on that one
Guys named Turk are in short supply in the NFL
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:25 AM   #225
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