Peyton Manning

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm just going to keep posting this, so Hootie can continue to dodge it.

and you're bashing him for losses against Rivers and Roethlisberger where he played well enough to win...

and you're bashing him for a '99 loss where he turned a 3-13 team coming off his rookie season where he turned it around to 13-3 before losing to a BETTER Titans team...

I mean come the **** on...everyone knew they were overachievers that year...they lost 19-16...nice reference.

AND

The only time Peyton has played bad in the postseason was 2003 and 2004 at Foxborro against a better AND heavily favored Patriots team...

And both games the Patriots DEFENSE won that game...as much as Peyton lost it...AND Brady didn't do anything but manage those games...he was nothing special...

The Patriots D on the other hand...

Such a ****ing joke that Brady gets all the credit.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

and you're bashing him for losses against Rivers and Roethlisberger where he played well enough to win...

and you're bashing him for a '99 loss where he turned a 3-13 team coming off his rookie season where he turned it around to 13-3 before losing to a BETTER Titans team...

I mean come the **** on...everyone knew they were overachievers that year...they lost 19-16...nice reference.

AND

The only time Peyton has played bad in the postseason was 2003 and 2004 at Foxborro against a better AND heavily favored Patriots team...

And both games the Patriots DEFENSE won that game...as much as Peyton lost it...AND Brady didn't do anything but manage those games...he was nothing special...

The Patriots D on the other hand...

Such a ****ing joke that Brady gets all the credit.

Throwing a game-ending pick goes a long way toward saying a QB played poorly.

And, offensively, the Colts were inefficient after the 1st.

[Mastashake]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Throwing a game-ending pick goes a long way toward saying a QB played poorly.

And, offensively, the Colts were inefficient after the 1st.

Peyton Manning : Super Bowl :: Brett Favre : NFC Championship Game

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Throwing a game-ending pick goes a long way toward saying a QB played poorly.

And, offensively, the Colts were inefficient after the 1st.

the Colts were inefficient after the 1st?

Two drives in the 2nd quarter...

The first one ended with a Pierre Garcon momentum killing, game-changing drop on a beautiful 3rd down pass by Manning (that not many other guys could do)...

The second series they were pinned at their own 2...

Wow, how inefficient!

The third quarter I believe they had one and a half drives that resulted in a TD and an end of the quarter change...

Which then resulted in a missed field goal in the 4th quarter...

Which then led to a drive where Manning drove all the way down the field and then threw a pick...

But somehow they were losing...

They punted twice...

Both times in the 2nd quarter...

One because Garcon n00bed himself...the other because they were pinned inside the 2 and were trying to take the game to halftime (stupidly enough)...

I'm telling you..

If Garcon doesn't drop that pass...that game was over.

And I don't care about the Colston drop because it's an entirely different scenario and it happened BEFORE the Garcon drop...

Sure...if Colston catches that pass and the Saints go up 7-3...the entire game would have been different, I know.

Just like had Garcon caught that ball when the Colts had the momentum...13-0 or even 17-0...different game. For sure.

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

the Colts were inefficient after the 1st?

Two drives in the 2nd quarter...

The first one ended with a Pierre Garcon momentum killing, game-changing drop on a beautiful 3rd down pass by Manning (that not many other guys could do)...

The second series they were pinned at their own 2...

Wow, how inefficient!

The third quarter I believe they had one and a half drives that resulted in a TD and an end of the quarter change...

Which then resulted in a missed field goal in the 4th quarter...

Which then led to a drive where Manning drove all the way down the field and then threw a pick...

But somehow they were losing...

They punted twice...

Both times in the 2nd quarter...

One because Garcon n00bed himself...the other because they were pinned inside the 2 and were trying to take the game to halftime (stupidly enough)...

I'm telling you..

If Garcon doesn't drop that pass...that game was over.

And I don't care about the Colston drop because it's an entirely different scenario and it happened BEFORE the Garcon drop...

Sure...if Colston catches that pass and the Saints go up 7-3...the entire game would have been different, I know.

Just like had Garcon caught that ball when the Colts had the momentum...13-0 or even 17-0...different game. For sure.

Yeah that 15yd quick slant to garcon was a beaut that noone else could throw. So do we automatically discount the wide open colston drop that killed the saints momentum?

Its really humorous the lengths you go to to defend this guy.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Yeah that 15yd quick slant to garcon was a beaut that noone else could throw. So do we automatically discount the wide open colston drop that killed the saints momentum?

Its really humorous the lengths you go to to defend this guy.

yeah it was a 15 yard quick slant

he threw it off of his back foot with three guys in his face...

I seriously think a lot of people don't even watch the ****ing games.

No...

If Colston catches that ball...things are different, sure...

but that happened before this drop so it's ****ing irrelevant...

does that make sense?

Jesus CHRIST.

Yeah...we could argue that that drop killed their chances right away had the Colts gone up 17-0 if Garcon catches that ball..

For sure.

You could say...

"Man that Colston drop really put the Saints in a spot right away where they just couldn't get back in that game!"

And I'd say you were probably on to something.

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

yeah it was a 15 yard quick slant

he threw it off of his back foot with three guys in his face...

I seriously think a lot of people don't even watch the ****ing games.

No...

If Colston catches that ball...things are different, sure...

but that happened before this drop so it's ****ing irrelevant...

does that make sense?

Jesus CHRIST.

Yeah...we could argue that that drop killed their chances right away had the Colts gone up 17-0 if Garcon catches that ball..

For sure.

You could say...

"Man that Colston drop really put the Saints in a spot right away where they just couldn't get back in that game!"

And I'd say you were probably on to something.

the colts were up 10-0. Good teams overcome stuff like that. Get over that drop.

[Touchdown Bowe]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

yeah it was a 15 yard quick slant

he threw it off of his back foot with three guys in his face...

I seriously think a lot of people don't even watch the ****ing games.

No...

If Colston catches that ball...things are different, sure...

but that happened before this drop so it's ****ing irrelevant...

does that make sense?

Jesus CHRIST.

Yeah...we could argue that that drop killed their chances right away had the Colts gone up 17-0 if Garcon catches that ball..

For sure.

You could say...

"Man that Colston drop really put the Saints in a spot right away where they just couldn't get back in that game!"

And I'd say you were probably on to something.

You act like one ****ing drop dictated the whole game. Your excuses for Manning are unbelievably pathetic. Does it really matter that the Colts would of went up 17-0? Because the Saints ended up scoring 31..

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

the Colts were inefficient after the 1st?

Yes, they were.

How many yards? And, most importantly, how many points?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

and you're bashing him for losses against Rivers and Roethlisberger where he played well enough to win...

and you're bashing him for a '99 loss where he turned a 3-13 team coming off his rookie season where he turned it around to 13-3 before losing to a BETTER Titans team...

I mean come the **** on...everyone knew they were overachievers that year...they lost 19-16...nice reference.

AND

The only time Peyton has played bad in the postseason was 2003 and 2004 at Foxborro against a better AND heavily favored Patriots team...

And both games the Patriots DEFENSE won that game...as much as Peyton lost it...AND Brady didn't do anything but manage those games...he was nothing special...

The Patriots D on the other hand...

Such a ****ing joke that Brady gets all the credit.

I seem to remember Manning having homefield, Edgerrin James, Tarik Glenn, and Marvin Harrison while losing to a Titans team that needed the Music City Miracle to beat the Bills at home.

I also seem to remember anointing Peyton's feet with oil after beating Denver and then putting up 3 points in the next round of the playoffs, and then bitching to get the rules of the NFL changed.

I also seem to remember Peyton Manning carving up G-Rob's defense then throwing 3 picks to Ty Law.

I also seem to remember that the Colts were not an underdog against the 2004 Patriots. In fact, the spread was a pick 'em, which meant that people thought Indianapolis was better, given that the home team gets 3 points.

You are getting eviscerated here.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I seem to remember Manning having homefield, Edgerrin James, Tarik Glenn, and Marvin Harrison while losing to a Titans team that needed the Music City Miracle to beat the Bills at home.

I also seem to remember anointing Peyton's feet with oil after beating Denver and then putting up 3 points in the next round of the playoffs, and then bitching to get the rules of the NFL changed.

I also seem to remember Peyton Manning carving up G-Rob's defense then throwing 3 picks to Ty Law.

I also seem to remember that the Colts were not an underTIM-MAY! against the 2004 Patriots. In fact, the spread was a pick 'em, which meant that people thought Indianapolis was better, given that the home team gets 3 points.

You are getting eviscerated here.

For every season ending pick thrown by Manning...

I think I can match it, maybe beat it...with Brady.