Boldin on the market

[bowener]

Well, what is he worth in a trade? 2nd or 3rd? What will his contract have to be for any prospective team?

Dolphins interview McCluster; Boldin on the market

The Combine is in full workout mode with offensive linemen running and jumping and pushing and pulling today. And of course, there is news.

Arizona Cardinals Rod Graves just made it official: Anquan Boldin in on the trade market.
"We're receptive to taking any calls," Graves said today. "I don't want to get into specifics but we're going to look at all the possibilities."

Alrightie then ...Let the Boldin to Dolphins speculation heat up.

I do not believe the Dolphins would give up a second round pick for Boldin. They probably wouldn't give up a third, either, because it's such a high pick in the round. A fourth-rounder?

Yes. That's the ticket.

The tight ends ran today. Pittsburgh's Dorin Dickerson ran a 4.40. He's a 230-pound tight end, but has wide receiver speed. The guy also has 34-inch arms and benched 225 pounds 28 times.

Miami tight end Jimmy Graham ran a 4.60. Jermaine Gresham ran a 4.76.

Something you should know is the latest report from aspiring scout Chris Cordero, who has been doing outstanding work checking out the talent in Indianapolis and reporting back to you.

According to Cordero, Mississippi running back Dexter McCluster spoke to the media today. McCluster said he had already interviewed with the Dolphins.

That's significant because the Dolphins loved McCluster at the Senior Bowl, spent a lot of time with him there, and clearly found nothing that eliminated the Mississippi WR-RB-Specialist from more scrutiny.

From Cordero:
McCluster measured in at [5081] and expects to run in the 4.3s. He will work at both RB and WR Sunday. He loves returning - especially punts - and says he is willing and able to cover punts as well.
You have to love any kid that says he's willing to get down field on special teams coverage. but when that player has been a star in the SEC that says something special. He doesn't feel entitled. He believes he has something to prove.
By the way, Rex Ryan talked to the media and took his usual swipe at the Dolphins. In talking about the the division he mentioned New England, Miami, and Buffalo. Then Ryan said, "I know Miami will be ticked because I never mention them first or put them on top, but I don't care."

On his infamous fingergate episode in South Florida during Pro Bowl week:
"Regardless of the circumstances I made a mistake," Ryan said. "I have to take responsibility for my own actions. I will learn from it."

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Sully

I'm iffy on Peppers.

Here is my thinking. Aging receiver, injury issues, wants a huge contract, put up the numbers he did with another possible HOF WR on the other side taking attention away from him. It seems ripe for an Alvin Harper situation.

At least with Peppers, we don't have to give up a draft pick, losing a potential contributing player 5 yrs down the road when the player has retired or become little more than a role guy.

You're taking too much credit away from boldin. Comparing him to alvin harper? Really? The guy had one of the best rookie seasons ever before fitz came into the league. He dominated. So its not fitz helping him out. This is no alvin harper situation.
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[Sully]

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

You're taking too much credit away from boldin. Comparing him to alvin harper? Really? The guy had one of the best rookie seasons ever before fitz came into the league. He dominated. So its not fitz helping him out. This is no alvin harper situation.
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I'm not comparing them player to player, I'm comparing the situations.

[Consistent1]

In my opinion when the situations are compared, Peppers will pull his on/off disappearing act frequently when he gets a new contract, especially on a weak team. Boldin will look to show he is one of the league's best WR's. A person can easily bitch about the injuries, but he must stay in pretty damn fine shape because he comes back from stuff very quickly for the most part. He is a 1300-1500 yard guy for several more years on most teams. Talk of being strictly a #2 is bullshit. You can't use the "he will be too old when we can contend' logic unless the team just never plans on winning.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Consistent1

In my opinion when the situations are compared, Peppers will pull his on/off disappearing act frequently when he gets a new contract, especially on a weak team. Boldin will look to show he is one of the league's best WR's. A person can easily bitch about the injuries, but he must stay in pretty damn fine shape because he comes back from stuff very quickly for the most part. He is a 1300-1500 yard guy for several more years on most teams. Talk of being strictly a #2 is bullshit. You can't use the "he will be too old when we can contend' logic unless the team just never plans on winning.

Exactly.

Some fans think that EVERY player on the roster needs to be 25 years old or younger to build for the future. The future is now. KC has to turn this thing around, and a player like Boldin can definitely help in that effort, as well as be had for a good value IMO.

Boldin is a proven 1,000 yard WR that has great hands. I for one don't think KC will be able to get the same value in the 2010 draft, especially over the next 5 seasons...
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[RustShack]

Originally Posted by billay

Trade for him and let Chambers go.

Or keep Chambers since most teams carry more than two receivers...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Consistent1

In my opinion when the situations are compared, Peppers will pull his on/off disappearing act frequently when he gets a new contract, especially on a weak team. Boldin will look to show he is one of the league's best WR's. A person can easily bitch about the injuries, but he must stay in pretty damn fine shape because he comes back from stuff very quickly for the most part. He is a 1300-1500 yard guy for several more years on most teams. Talk of being strictly a #2 is bullshit. You can't use the "he will be too old when we can contend' logic unless the team just never plans on winning.

Huh? 1,300-1,500 yard guy for most teams?

He's had TWO seasons where he amassed 1,300 yards: 2003 and 2005.

He is NOT a 1,300 yard guy. In KC, he'd be lucky to 1,000 yards behind this line, with this QB and with Dwayne Bowe on the other side.

Furthermore, he IS a number two receiver. PERIOD.

If he's your number one, your team is ****ED. Why? Because you're number one receiver is a speed guy that can separate downfield for big plays.

Boldin's an over the middle, TG, tight end type player that will make big plays for you occasionally, but he's a possession receiver.

I'd maybe give up one of the Chiefs 5th round picks for the guy but anything else is way too high given his age, recent injuries and the Chiefs massive needs up and down the roster.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

So for the people who just advocate trading for him, what round of pick would you be willing to part with?

Do you care if we just take him on with 1 year left on his deal?

If you feel the need to sign him to a new contract, how much would you pay him and how long would you try and lock him up?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Huh? 1,300-1,500 yard guy for most teams?

He's had TWO seasons where he amassed 1,300 yards: 2003 and 2005.

He is NOT a 1,300 yard guy. In KC, he'd be lucky to 1,000 yards behind this line, with this QB and with Dwayne Bowe on the other side.

Furthermore, he IS a number two receiver. PERIOD.

If he's your number one, your team is ****ED. Why? Because you're number one receiver is a speed guy that can separate downfield for big plays.

Boldin's an over the middle, TG, tight end type player that will make big plays for you occasionally, but he's a possession receiver.

I'd maybe give up one of the Chiefs 5th round picks for the guy but anything else is way too high given his age, recent injuries and the Chiefs massive needs up and down the roster.

prior to last year i would have disagreed, now i totally agree with you.
hes often injured
he seemed to not give his all last year
he doesnt stretch the field
oh did i mention that hes always injured?
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[RustShack]

If Cassel is our QB having a deep threat is a waste of space... Moss had one of his worst years in the league when Cassel was the QB.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

prior to last year i would have disagreed, now i totally agree with you.
hes often injured
he seemed to not give his all last year
he doesnt stretch the field
oh did i mention that hes always injured?
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Me too. I wanted him until this year. Now I don't.

How much do you pay a guy that was dogged by his hammy ALL of last year? And if you lock him up to a 4 year deal for the right price and he blows up this year, you get another 3 years of him bitching about his contract and becoming a cancer in the locker room.

I don't want him at all anymore. Let's re sign Chambers and draft a guy in the 2nd round. I think if we do that, we're money.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by RustShack

If Cassel is our QB having a deep threat is a waste of space... Moss had one of his worst years in the league when Cassel was the QB.

yeah lets just forget oakland
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[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Me too. I wanted him until this year. Now I don't.

How much do you pay a guy that was dogged by his hammy ALL of last year? And if you lock him up to a 4 year deal for the right price and he blows up this year, you get another 3 years of him bitching about his contract and becoming a cancer in the locker room.

I don't want him at all anymore. Let's re sign Chambers and draft a guy in the 2nd round. I think if we do that, we're money.

agreed
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[RustShack]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

yeah lets just forget oakland
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Thats why I said one of his worst years, the one other worse year was in Oakland when Matt Tuiasosopo was his QB... but hey I understand that you can't comprehend simple stuff like that.

[RustShack]

Oh forgive me, Walter was his QB and his worst season was with the last season with the Vikings when he only started 13 games.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by RustShack

Oh forgive me, Walter was his QB and his worst season was with the last season with the Vikings when he only started 13 games.

funny how you want to throw out that someone cant comprehend something and then be wrong on every point you made


shut up now PLEASE