Boldin on the market

Consistent1 · 02-28-2010, 12:37 PM

In my opinion when the situations are compared, Peppers will pull his on/off disappearing act frequently when he gets a new contract, especially on a weak team. Boldin will look to show he is one of the league's best WR's. A person can easily bitch about the injuries, but he must stay in pretty damn fine shape because he comes back from stuff very quickly for the most part. He is a 1300-1500 yard guy for several more years on most teams. Talk of being strictly a #2 is bullshit. You can't use the "he will be too old when we can contend' logic unless the team just never plans on winning.

TRR · 02-28-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Consistent1

In my opinion when the situations are compared, Peppers will pull his on/off disappearing act frequently when he gets a new contract, especially on a weak team. Boldin will look to show he is one of the league's best WR's. A person can easily bitch about the injuries, but he must stay in pretty damn fine shape because he comes back from stuff very quickly for the most part. He is a 1300-1500 yard guy for several more years on most teams. Talk of being strictly a #2 is bullshit. You can't use the "he will be too old when we can contend' logic unless the team just never plans on winning.

Exactly.

Some fans think that EVERY player on the roster needs to be 25 years old or younger to build for the future. The future is now. KC has to turn this thing around, and a player like Boldin can definitely help in that effort, as well as be had for a good value IMO.

Boldin is a proven 1,000 yard WR that has great hands. I for one don't think KC will be able to get the same value in the 2010 draft, especially over the next 5 seasons...
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**DaneMcCloud** · 02-28-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Consistent1

In my opinion when the situations are compared, Peppers will pull his on/off disappearing act frequently when he gets a new contract, especially on a weak team. Boldin will look to show he is one of the league's best WR's. A person can easily bitch about the injuries, but he must stay in pretty damn fine shape because he comes back from stuff very quickly for the most part. He is a 1300-1500 yard guy for several more years on most teams. Talk of being strictly a #2 is bullshit. You can't use the "he will be too old when we can contend' logic unless the team just never plans on winning.

Huh? 1,300-1,500 yard guy for most teams?

He's had TWO seasons where he amassed 1,300 yards: 2003 and 2005.

He is NOT a 1,300 yard guy. In KC, he'd be lucky to 1,000 yards behind this line, with this QB and with Dwayne Bowe on the other side.

Furthermore, he IS a number two receiver. PERIOD.

If he's your number one, your team is ****ED. Why? Because you're number one receiver is a speed guy that can separate downfield for big plays.

Boldin's an over the middle, TG, tight end type player that will make big plays for you occasionally, but he's a possession receiver.

I'd maybe give up one of the Chiefs 5th round picks for the guy but anything else is way too high given his age, recent injuries and the Chiefs massive needs up and down the roster.

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2010, 01:53 PM

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Huh? 1,300-1,500 yard guy for most teams?

He's had TWO seasons where he amassed 1,300 yards: 2003 and 2005.

He is NOT a 1,300 yard guy. In KC, he'd be lucky to 1,000 yards behind this line, with this QB and with Dwayne Bowe on the other side.

Furthermore, he IS a number two receiver. PERIOD.

If he's your number one, your team is ****ED. Why? Because you're number one receiver is a speed guy that can separate downfield for big plays.

Boldin's an over the middle, TG, tight end type player that will make big plays for you occasionally, but he's a possession receiver.

I'd maybe give up one of the Chiefs 5th round picks for the guy but anything else is way too high given his age, recent injuries and the Chiefs massive needs up and down the roster.

prior to last year i would have disagreed, now i totally agree with you.
hes often injured
he seemed to not give his all last year
he doesnt stretch the field
oh did i mention that hes always injured?
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**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-28-2010, 01:56 PM

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prior to last year i would have disagreed, now i totally agree with you.
hes often injured
he seemed to not give his all last year
he doesnt stretch the field
oh did i mention that hes always injured?
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Me too. I wanted him until this year. Now I don't.

How much do you pay a guy that was dogged by his hammy ALL of last year? And if you lock him up to a 4 year deal for the right price and he blows up this year, you get another 3 years of him bitching about his contract and becoming a cancer in the locker room.

I don't want him at all anymore. Let's re sign Chambers and draft a guy in the 2nd round. I think if we do that, we're money.

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2010, 02:00 PM

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Me too. I wanted him until this year. Now I don't.

How much do you pay a guy that was dogged by his hammy ALL of last year? And if you lock him up to a 4 year deal for the right price and he blows up this year, you get another 3 years of him bitching about his contract and becoming a cancer in the locker room.

I don't want him at all anymore. Let's re sign Chambers and draft a guy in the 2nd round. I think if we do that, we're money.

agreed
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**Saul Good** · 02-28-2010, 03:46 PM

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He's had TWO seasons where he amassed 1,300 yards: 2003 and 2005

He is NOT a 1,300 yard guy. In KC, he'd be lucky to 1,000 yards behind this line, with this QB and with Dwayne Bowe on the other side.

Furthermore, he IS a number two receiver. PERIOD.

If he's your number one, your team is ****ED. Why? Because you're number one receiver is a speed guy that can separate downfield for big plays.

Who was the #1 Receiver for Arizona when he had those two 1,300+ yard seasons?

Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Hines Ward, Brandon Marshall, and even Jerry Rice are/were just possession receivers, right?

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2010, 03:50 PM

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Who was the #1 Receiver for Arizona when he had those two 1,300+ yard seasons?

Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Hines Ward, Brandon Marshall, and even Jerry Rice are/were just possession receivers, right?

sorry but i have yet to see ANYONE call fitz or johnson possesion wrs.
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**Saul Good** · 02-28-2010, 08:43 PM

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sorry but i have yet to see ANYONE call fitz or johnson possesion wrs.
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That's my point. None of those guys are speed receivers, but they are/were all clear number 1 receivers. Boldin was a #1 for 3 seasons, and he had 1300+ yards in two of them and only played 10 games in the other. If he's not a #1, someone should have told him. Maybe Jeff Blake and Josh McCown just made him look good. Perhaps Freddie Jones and Bryant Johnson drew the attention of the defense on the other side of the field thus freeing up Boldin. Maybe though, just maybe, he was a legit #1 on a team with an even worse QB than the Chiefs have and an even worse option on the other side of the field than Dwayne Bowe.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-28-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Who was the #1 Receiver for Arizona when he had those two 1,300+ yard seasons?

Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Hines Ward, Brandon Marshall, and even Jerry Rice are/were just possession receivers, right?

Are you a dummy in real life or do you just play one on the internet?

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Consistent1 _____________ Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	In my opinion when the situations are compared, Peppers will pull his on/off disappearing act frequently when he gets a new contract, especially on a weak team. Boldin will look to show he is one of the league's best WR's. A person can easily bitch about the injuries, but he must stay in pretty damn fine shape because he comes back from stuff very quickly for the most part. He is a 1300-1500 yard guy for several more years on most teams. Talk of being strictly a #2 is bullshit. You can't use the "he will be too old when we can contend' logic unless the team just never plans on winning.
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