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Old 03-01-2010, 02:52 PM   #1
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Some players (Demaryius Thomas, Jimmy Clausen, etc.) have legitimate injuries

Others are dodging the combine to inflate their draft stock (Bryant, Spikes, McClain)

It's not surprising that you are rushing to the defense of a Gator, though.

For guys like Roddy White, who missed b/c of a slight hamstring injury, I'd definitely dock him.

You are expected to play when you are banged up. If you are interviewing for a job, you don't cancel the interview when you have a head cold.
So you would not want DeAngelo Williams or Roddy White on your football team?
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Old 03-01-2010, 05:31 PM   #2
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So you would not want DeAngelo Williams or Roddy White on your football team?
If there were questions about their speed and they didn't run, then no, but there weren't questions about that.

The questions about Williams were based on his small size, and for White, the level of competition he faced.

There will always be exceptions to every rule, I'm not an absolutist, but if someone has concerns about an aspect of their ability, and they purposely dodge that evaluation, then I don't want that guy on my team.
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If there were questions about their speed and they didn't run, then no, but there weren't questions about that.

The questions about Williams were based on his small size, and for White, the level of competition he faced.

There will always be exceptions to every rule, I'm not an absolutist, but if someone has concerns about an aspect of their ability, and they purposely dodge that evaluation, then I don't want that guy on my team.
So the "lack of competitiveness" garbage is only valid if that player isn't generally thought of as a speed demon? m'kay.
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Old 03-01-2010, 06:25 PM   #4
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So the "lack of competitiveness" garbage is only valid if that player isn't generally thought of as a speed demon? m'kay.
No, that's one example, you dumb mother****er.

Speed ?, doesn't run the 40= red flag.

Offensive system question, doesn't take snaps from center or throw at the combine= red flag.

Strength concerns, no bench or Cybex= red flag.
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No, that's one example, you dumb mother****er.

Speed ?, doesn't run the 40= red flag.

Offensive system question, doesn't take snaps from center or throw at the combine= red flag.

Strength concerns, no bench or Cybex= red flag.
So Sam Bradford = red flag? (I wouldn't disagree with that, just attempting to understand your criteria)
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So Sam Bradford = red flag? (I wouldn't disagree with that, just attempting to understand your criteria)
Without a doubt.

Same for Tebow.

If someone is coming from a Pro System (Stafford) and doesn't throw, it's disappointing, but you already know he can operate from under center.

If a guy has questionable arm strength or schematic questions and he doesn't throw, it's a huge red flag.

And I wouldn't just call it a lack of competitiveness, I'd call it cowardice.
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Without a doubt.

Same for Tebow.

If someone is coming from a Pro System (Stafford) and doesn't throw, it's disappointing, but you already know he can operate from under center.

If a guy has questionable arm strength or schematic questions and he doesn't throw, it's a huge red flag.

And I wouldn't just call it a lack of competitiveness, I'd call it cowardice.
Did you feel the same way about Stafford last year?
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Without a doubt.

Same for Tebow.

If someone is coming from a Pro System (Stafford) and doesn't throw, it's disappointing, but you already know he can operate from under center.

If a guy has questionable arm strength or schematic questions and he doesn't throw, it's a huge red flag.

And I wouldn't just call it a lack of competitiveness, I'd call it cowardice.
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