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Old 04-24-2010, 12:01 AM   #256
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:02 AM   #257
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I don't get the talk about the "True Fans" and the "Drafturbators" are reversing roles. The True Fans are acting exactly like they always do -- they submit wholly to authority.

McCluster was a gamechanger in college, true. In order to be that in the NFL he will need to learn how to run a full gamut of routes from the slot. Is he a project capable of learning? Yes, I believe that he is. But is he a project worth spending the 36th overall pick when you could have addressed glaring defensive needs w/ 1st round talent (not to mention picking up a #1 QB or a fringe-#1/great-#2 WR)? I strongly feel that he's not worth the pick over the other, better (or as good at the least) options that were available.

I mean this in a totally constructive criticism way: most of you guys sound just like KnowMo in this thread.
It is, it's Knowmo redux, "These guys are gonna be good just cause"
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:03 AM   #258
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If we'd taken him at 5 the OleMiss/Saints fan would've JIHP. It would've been Reggie Bush esque.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:03 AM   #259
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But so was safety, nickel, offensive line, tight end and the return game before today.

They just have too many ****ing holes.
lbs are more important than nickel cbs, especially in a 3-4, and especially in te 2nd round, and especially when you DRAFTED A CB LAST YEAR

same for TEs...WHICH WE DRAFTED LAST YEAR


guess what we didn't draft? either year?

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you can't just pretend everything is equal, because it isn't true

bad choices have long term consequences...that is why we have sucked for years and years and years...
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:03 AM   #260
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Yeah, they do.

Unfortunately, they decided to fill the least important ones.

Please don't think that getting another nickle CB, TE and KR is more important that a front 7 player in a 3-4 defense.
I don't.

But at the same time, I'm not pissed that they addressed other positions that needed to be upgraded.

This isn't like last year when the picks made NO sense and basically sucked ass. If last year didn't suck so much, we wouldn't be in this position now.

But at LEAST, they got some game changers. And I think that Berry, McCluster, Arenas and Asamoah change this team overnight.

If Moeaki can stay healthy, he's icing on the cake. And we've still got two picks tomorrow.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:04 AM   #261
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:05 AM   #262
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If we'd taken him at 5 the OleMiss/Saints fan would've JIHP. It would've been Reggie Bush esque.
I'm not a fool. I wouldn't have taken Dexter in the first round. He went higher than I figured he would, but it's hardly worth pulling your hair out over.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:05 AM   #263
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I don't get the talk about the "True Fans" and the "Drafturbators" are reversing roles. The True Fans are acting exactly like they always do -- they submit wholly to authority.

McCluster was a gamechanger in college, true. In order to be that in the NFL he will need to learn how to run a full gamut of routes from the slot. Is he a project capable of learning? Yes, I believe that he is. But is he a project worth spending the 36th overall pick when you could have addressed glaring defensive needs w/ 1st round talent (not to mention picking up a #1 QB or a fringe-#1/great-#2 WR)? I strongly feel that he's not worth the pick over the other, better (or as good at the least) options that were available.

I mean this in a totally constructive criticism way: most of you guys sound just like KnowMo in this thread.
I still am sort of OK with the pick. He is a good example of a player I really liked but just not that high. As you just listed, too many aspect of his game that make him a bit of a project.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:05 AM   #264
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Yeah, they do.

Unfortunately, they decided to fill the least important ones.

Please don't think that getting another nickle CB, TE and KR is more important that a front 7 player in a 3-4 defense.
This $#it-tasitic last 6 years has been due to poor drafting, followed up by a few years of ditching the old talent and then rebuilding, followed by a complete change of everyone as well as scheme and emphasis, followed by yet another rebuild by a completely different GM/HC, followed by another completely different change in offensive and defensive philosophy...


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Old 04-24-2010, 12:06 AM   #265
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Stupid Pioli taking some slower smaller version of Jamaal Charles instead of taking the amazing value in Everson Griffen instead.

This team ****ing blew last year and was slow as hell. The line sucked, Charles was falling apart being both the premiere RB and returner, CBs not named Brandon Flowers were killing the Chiefs at one point and receivers sucked and basically looked slow as hell. These issues have actually been addressed.

Scott Pioli actually got some actual potential play makers finally instead of Tyson Jackson and the Q_Q is still never ending.

Today just got ****ing pathetic when people started leaking from the vagina because Scott wasn't stock piling them future picks like Belichick. Shut the **** up already.

Here in reality world, coming off a 4-12 season doesn't exactly tell me that the Chiefs are primed to make the big push and need to put a finishing touch on the few holes they have.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:06 AM   #267
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I don't get the talk about the "True Fans" and the "Drafturbators" are reversing roles. The True Fans are acting exactly like they always do -- they submit wholly to authority.
I totally get it. The drafturbaters sound a little like they're wishing the chiefs had picked for need, with a focus on the front 7. Which is eerily similar to "WE GAVE UP SACKS DRAFT AN OT!" or "DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS, GET A DAMN NT" instead of the normal "we're drafting at 5, you need to draft a great playmaker there instead of a ****ing offensive tackle".

Mostly though it reads like "I wanted playmakers, damnit, but not these playmakers".

As far as sumbitting to authority, I think you'll probably hear somebody argue that the converse is true and that the drafturbators are sticking to their normal MO of criticizing the front office regardless of what they do.
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If we'd taken him at 5 the OleMiss/Saints fan would've JIHP. It would've been Reggie Bush esque.
I do love me some top 10 HB.

How's that huge contract working out for those Reggie Bush and Rickey Williams pimps?...
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:08 AM   #269
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I'm not a fool. I wouldn't have taken Dexter in the first round. He went higher than I figured he would, but it's hardly worth pulling your hair out over.
Naw, I was just ****ing around with that post. Nothing personal dude, I really don't hate the pick. I think he's going to do well. I just think we could've done better.
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lbs are more important than nickel cbs, especially in a 3-4, and especially in te 2nd round, and especially when you DRAFTED A CB LAST YEAR

same for TEs...WHICH WE DRAFTED LAST YEAR


guess what we didn't draft? either year?

LB
NT


you can't just pretend everything is equal, because it isn't true

bad choices have long term consequences...that is why we have sucked for years and years and years...
This CB isn't just a CB - he was the nation's most dynamic returner. He can change a game instantly.

In looking at their moves, it's evident that they're happy with the Shaun Smith acquisition and the progress of Mays, Belcher and Studebaker.

Now, do I agree? Honestly, I have no idea. I think there's a possibility that Belcher and Studebaker improve exponentially. But if they don't, there will be guys at the cut down.

I'm not going to trip out NOW. I'll trip out if certain positions aren't addressed by opening day. But I think we can all agree that a dynamic slot receiver and returner ARE NOT going to be available on the waiver wire.

And if the Chiefs had Berry and Arenas last year, Miles Austin and the dumbass Broncos receiver woudn't have had career days against the Chiefs.
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