Chiefs listing McCluster as a WR

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

our lb core is pretty much all ass

But so was safety, nickel, offensive line, tight end and the return game before today.

They just have too many ****ing holes.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But so was safety, nickel, offensive line, tight end and the return game before today.

They just have too many ****ing holes.

Yeah, they do.

Unfortunately, they decided to fill the least important ones.

Please don't think that getting another nickle CB, TE and KR is more important that a front 7 player in a 3-4 defense.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yeah, they do.

Unfortunately, they decided to fill the least important ones.

Please don't think that getting another nickle CB, TE and KR is more important that a front 7 player in a 3-4 defense.

I don't.

But at the same time, I'm not pissed that they addressed other positions that needed to be upgraded.

This isn't like last year when the picks made NO sense and basically sucked ass. If last year didn't suck so much, we wouldn't be in this position now.

But at LEAST, they got some game changers. And I think that Berry, McCluster, Arenas and Asamoah change this team overnight.

If Moeaki can stay healthy, he's icing on the cake. And we've still got two picks tomorrow.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If Moeaki can stay healthy, he's icing on the cake. And we've still got two picks tomorrow.

We traded up for a tight end. Again.

And that would be okay if you didn't have the first team Walter Camp tight end or the first team AP All-American tight end still on the board and it looked like both would have been there when the Chiefs picked in the fourth. But, instead, we decide to throw away one of our very valuable fifth round picks to draft a guy who has never played a full season in college because of injuries and concussions.

Bad ****ing pick.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

We traded up for a tight end. Again.

And that would be okay if you didn't have the first team Walter Camp tight end or the first team AP All-American tight end still on the board and it looked like both would have been there when the Chiefs picked in the fourth. But, instead, we decide to throw away one of our very valuable fifth round picks to draft a guy who has never played a full season in college because of injuries and concussions.

Bad ****ing pick.

And that was the other one that really pissed me off. As if he wouldn't have been sitting there at our 4th round pick. There were 2-3 higher rated TE's than him on the board. Why did we trade up for him? WTF?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yeah, they do.

Unfortunately, they decided to fill the least important ones.

Please don't think that getting another nickle CB, TE and KR is more important that a front 7 player in a 3-4 defense.

This $#it-tasitic last 6 years has been due to poor drafting, followed up by a few years of ditching the old talent and then rebuilding, followed by a complete change of everyone as well as scheme and emphasis, followed by yet another rebuild by a completely different GM/HC, followed by another completely different change in offensive and defensive philosophy...

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But so was safety, nickel, offensive line, tight end and the return game before today.

They just have too many ****ing holes.

lbs are more important than nickel cbs, especially in a 3-4, and especially in te 2nd round, and especially when you DRAFTED A CB LAST YEAR

same for TEs...WHICH WE DRAFTED LAST YEAR


guess what we didn't draft? either year?

LB
NT


you can't just pretend everything is equal, because it isn't true

bad choices have long term consequences...that is why we have sucked for years and years and years...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

lbs are more important than nickel cbs, especially in a 3-4, and especially in te 2nd round, and especially when you DRAFTED A CB LAST YEAR

same for TEs...WHICH WE DRAFTED LAST YEAR


guess what we didn't draft? either year?

LB
NT


you can't just pretend everything is equal, because it isn't true

bad choices have long term consequences...that is why we have sucked for years and years and years...

This CB isn't just a CB - he was the nation's most dynamic returner. He can change a game instantly.

In looking at their moves, it's evident that they're happy with the Shaun Smith acquisition and the progress of Mays, Belcher and Studebaker.

Now, do I agree? Honestly, I have no idea. I think there's a possibility that Belcher and Studebaker improve exponentially. But if they don't, there will be guys at the cut down.

I'm not going to trip out NOW. I'll trip out if certain positions aren't addressed by opening day. But I think we can all agree that a dynamic slot receiver and returner ARE NOT going to be available on the waiver wire.

And if the Chiefs had Berry and Arenas last year, Miles Austin and the dumbass Broncos receiver woudn't have had career days against the Chiefs.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

lbs are more important than nickel cbs, especially in a 3-4, and especially in te 2nd round, and especially when you DRAFTED A CB LAST YEAR

Nickel CBs are extremely important in any defense, with offenses moving to 3 to 5 receiver sets. Washington was a horrendous pick last year. He's not the answer. If Arenas is a solid nickel back, it's an important need at some point. There's no way in ****ing hell you can beat a team like New England or Indy in the future playoffs when they have slot receivers that stomp all over Donald Washington all game long

same for TEs...WHICH WE DRAFTED LAST YEAR

Charlie Weis runs a ton of 2-TE sets and values TEs quite a bit. And he likes TEs with the versatility to block and receive, so he can be deceptive in his sets.

guess what we didn't draft? either year?

LB
NT


you can't just pretend everything is equal, because it isn't true

bad choices have long term consequences...that is why we have sucked for years and years and years...

Not drafting a Nose Tackle surprises me. But again, you draft the guy you think is BPA. You don't draft a guy because he's there. A lot of scouts seemed to really dislike Cody. You have guys like Sergio Kindle who dropped b/c of concerns about microfractures in his leg. And you have no idea what these coaches value. Charlie Weis builds his entire offense around versatility. Go ahead and look up any site about how he runs his offense. When I heard we hired Weis, I knew Sproles was about as dangerous of a weapon they could find and I think there's definitely potential for McCluster to play a similar role. If he's returning kicks, lining up on 3rd downs, lining up on 4-5 receiver sets, and getting a carry or two, the guy's going to be a full-time player playing specialized roles.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Nickel CBs are extremely important in any defense, with offenses moving to 3 to 5 receiver sets. Washington was a horrendous pick last year. He's not the answer. If Arenas is a solid nickel back, it's an important need at some point. There's no way in ****ing hell you can beat a team like New England or Indy in the future playoffs when they have slot receivers that stomp all over Donald Washington all game long


Charlie Weis runs a ton of 2-TE sets and values TEs quite a bit. And he likes TEs with the versatility to block and receive, so he can be deceptive in his sets.


Not drafting a Nose Tackle surprises me. But again, you draft the guy you think is BPA. You don't draft a guy because he's there. A lot of scouts seemed to really dislike Cody. You have guys like Sergio Kindle who dropped b/c of concerns about microfractures in his leg. And you have no idea what these coaches value. Charlie Weis builds his entire offense around versatility. Go ahead and look up any site about how he runs his offense. When I heard we hired Weis, I knew Sproles was about as dangerous of a weapon they could find and I think there's definitely potential for McCluster to play a similar role. If he's returning kicks, lining up on 3rd downs, lining up on 4-5 receiver sets, and getting a carry or two, the guy's going to be a full-time player playing specialized roles.

you don't draft a nickle cb in the 2nd round of s draft that loaded with talent when your entire lb core sucks ass and you don't have a NT...

it's that simple

the rest is just lame rationalizing

we choked on a dick in the 2nd round....meanwhile the Ravens, who know something about 3-4 defense took kindle and cody and laughed all the way home