Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You act as if there aren't 31 other teams trying to get to the SB as well.

Dude, I respect you but this comment is way out of bounds. Out of respect to you, I'm not going to address it.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You really want to use SB appearances as a knock on their drafting?

As Joey Porter (or some Miami Dolphin said last summer) about the Jets: "Hey man, they're the offseason Champs!"

It really doesn't matter how well you supposedly draft if the end result, especially after more than a decade of "winning" drafts, you have nothing to show for it.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll remember that when we don't make the playoffs, much less the SB under Scott Pioli.

Now that's just your ego showing.

No one is suggesting that the Chiefs are a playoff team in 2011, let alone, 2010.

This team has a long, long way to go before they're consistently competing in the playoffs, regardless of whether or not Pioli's the GM or not.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No one is suggesting that the Chiefs are a playoff team in 2011, let alone, 2010.

This team has a long, long way to go before they're consistently competing in the playoffs, regardless of whether or not Pioli's the GM or not.

Funny, I specifically recall you being in the group of people that expected a playoff caliber team by the 3rd year.

That group generally was expecting 4-12, 8-8, then a playoff run.

If you're backing down from that, fine. But make sure you explain why you're doing so.

My guess is because Scott Pioli hasn't done his job to the level he was expected.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Funny, I specifically recall you being in the group of people that expected a playoff caliber team by the 3rd year.

That group generally was expecting 4-12, 8-8, then a playoff run.

If you're backing down from that, fine. But make sure you explain why you're doing so.

My guess is because Scott Pioli hasn't done his job to the level he was expected.

No, I explained here, just in case you missed it:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think I have this whole thing figured out.

I had no idea what Pioli was doing last year. He drafted guys for the 3-4 and brought in 40 players off the street that were mostly familiar with the "system", their way of doing things. I didn't agree with it, but I'm beginning to understand their philosophy.

First and foremost, they're looking for leaders, smart instinctive football players and guys that will be at the core of this team for a decade. Guys that will be willing to take a little less when free agency comes around, just to be part of the "system" that will be in place. I think this draft solidifies this notion.

I also believe that Pioli knows he can't find playmakers in free agency, so he drafted playmakers this year. Berry, McClusters, Arenas and Moeaki all have the potential to be explosive, game changing playmakers. Asamoah could be a 10 year starter, maybe longer. Lewis plays much faster on film than his 40 time indicates because he's got natural football instincts, same with Sheffield.

I think the Chiefs passed on fat**** Cody and broke Kindle (along with a few other defensive players) because they honestly believe that Jackson, Magee, Dorsey, Mays, Belcher and Studebaker make a big leap from year one in their defense to year two. Personally, I don't disagree.

I also think that it will be much easier for them to grab an NT and a few linebackers at cutdown than for them to find a dynamic WR/RB, CB/Returner and a TE in the mold of Dallas Clark.

What's become extremely clear is that Pioli has five full years in which to build this franchise in his image and that he's under no pressure to win now. With that being the case, he's going to build it exactly as he sees fit, regardless of what anyone else thinks or believes.

Only time will tell if he's successful or not, but I for one am in no way, shape or form, disappointed with this draft because he got playmakers and instinctual, productive football players that will help this team for a long time.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, I explained here, just in case you missed it:

Yeah, that's what you posted this weekend.

Did you, or did you not expect a playoff run by Year Three when Pioli was hired?

I'll gladly apologize if I'm wrong, but I recall you sharing a similar opinion to Me, Deez, Flopnuts, etc.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yeah, that's what you posted this weekend.

Did you, or did you not expect a playoff run by Year Three when Pioli was hired?

I'll gladly apologize if I'm wrong, but I recall you sharing a similar opinion to Me, Deez, Flopnuts, etc.

In year one, yes, absolutely. I incorrectly assumed that Scott Pioli would come in and pick up right where Carl & Kuharich left off.

I was wrong and have voiced my concerns ad nauseam on this forum for the better part of 14 months.

So in short, I do not believe that by year three, they'll be a consistent playoff team. It would be awesome IF it happens but at this point in time, I think it's going to be difficult.

I would love, however, to be wrong.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

In year one, yes, absolutely. I incorrectly assumed that Scott Pioli would come in and pick up right where Carl & Kuharich left off.

I was wrong and have voiced my concerns ad nauseam on this forum for the better part of 14 months.

So in short, I do not believe that by year three, they'll be a consistent playoff team. It would be awesome IF it happens but at this point in time, I think it's going to be difficult.

I would love, however, to be wrong.

Thank you for your honesty.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Thank you for your honesty.

You're welcome.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Did you, or did you not expect a playoff run by Year Three when Pioli was hired?

You realize this is year two, right?