Chiefs Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+ - Page 46

**dirk digler** · 04-25-2010, 08:04 AM

I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+

The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

NO...You are a pathetic person if this is where you're taking this.....I've read negative BS about this all day....It's invalid....

PhilFree

I'm pathetic Phil?

The coward claims I know nothing about football.

I simply asked him to poll the people. If I'm the football idiot he says I am, it shouldn't be an issue.

You understand the concept of standing behind your claims, don't you Phil?

You wouldn't make false accusations, just to troll the board, and then hide behind your keyboard when called on it, would you?

I don't think you would, Phil, because you appear to have some integrity.

I'm just asking him to be a man, and stand behind his comment.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04-25-2010, 10:17 PM

And in today's NFL it doesn't matter how devoid your roster is of talent. It's not a 5 year process anymore. It's from 1-3 tops in my humble opinion.

That said, I'm still firmly on the 8-8 or GTFO band wagon.

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

2009 is not good...especially since you took Sanchez when the team already spent a high 2nd on Cassel...****ing moron of a pick...

Beanie Wells is a good, yet obvious pick. When you take a RB early, he better be good.

Other than that...I see NOTHING that makes me think, "wow, I'd sure love to have that player on KC!"

and 2008...

you took Vernon Gholston #1 overall.

...

Matt Forte is a dime a dozen back...

Uh...

Avril and Nicks...good picks. Congrats.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

In year one, yes, absolutely. I incorrectly assumed that Scott Pioli would come in and pick up right where Carl & Kuharich left off.

I was wrong and have voiced my concerns ad nauseam on this forum for the better part of 14 months.

So in short, I do not believe that by year three, they'll be a consistent playoff team. It would be awesome IF it happens but at this point in time, I think it's going to be difficult.

I would love, however, to be wrong.

Thank you for your honesty.

KCwolf · 04-25-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Why is it silly to compare, Dane?

Some of us were championing Schwartz as the new HC of the Chiefs.

He was hired at the same time as Pioli/Haley.

Why is it silly to compare two teams that started over, both with next to nothing on their roster?

I know that if I were trying to make the point that KC has done a better job over the past 15 months, I wouldn't want to compare the rosters either.

This isn't a knock on you personally. You're my boy. But the overall tone of this place is EXACTLY like last year.

Everyone hates the picks initially, (sans Berry and Asomoah) then begin to rationalize it because some pundits like it - instead of sticking to their opinion.

It happened after the Cassel trade, it happened after last year's draft, and it happened this weekend.

Very Very Few were happy about last years Draft........

splatbass · 04-25-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Did you, or did you not expect a playoff run by Year Three when Pioli was hired?

You realize this is year two, right?

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm pathetic Phil?

The coward claims I know nothing about football.

I simply asked him to poll the people. If I'm the football idiot he says I am, it shouldn't be an issue.

You understand the concept of standing behind your claims, don't you Phil?

You wouldn't make false accusations, just to troll the board, and then hide behind your keyboard when called on it, would you?

I don't think you would, Phil, because you appear to have some integrity.

I'm just asking him to be a man, and stand behind his comment.

You're missing the point...

I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks...

I form my own opinions based off of what I believe...

I don't care what GoChiefs, or Dane, or Flopnuts, or Knowmo, or Vailpass, or Frazod, OR ANYONE thinks...if I agree with them it's because I honestly agree with them...

I honestly think you're a want-to-be know-it-all who ends up knowing far less than he really knows and you keep proving it and proving it and proving it.

Every time you click "Submit Reply"...

Titty Meat · 04-25-2010, 10:20 PM

OTW you are comparing apples to oranges my friend. This time last year the team didn't sign a guy like Chambers or Jones. Didn't draft anyone nearly as good as Berry or an impact player like McCluster. I'll even say there was no player this time last year that was good of a pick as Asmogah sp?

RedThat · 04-25-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

And in today's NFL it doesn't matter how devoid your roster is of talent. It's not a 5 year process anymore. It's from 1-3 tops in my humble opinion.

That said, I'm still firmly on the 8-8 or GTFO band wagon.

I think it depends what kind of shape your roster is in once a new regime takes over.

3 years is a solid amount of time to build a team imo. Provided that a lot of things go your way. But it could take longer sometimes. It all depends Flop.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-25-2010, 10:21 PM

The rest of my picks from '08

Jalen Parmele: Took over KR duty for the Ravens last year and averaged 31 yards per return (7th rounder)
Kerry Brown: Busted Out (5th)
Lance Leggett: Never Stuck (7th)
King Dunlap: Philly's back up LT (6th)
Kellen Davis: Red zone threat for the Bears caught 3 TDs last year. (6th)
Brian Johnston: We all remember him (6th)

That was the rest of my '08

philfree · 04-25-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm pathetic Phil?

The coward claims I know nothing about football.

I simply asked him to poll the people. If I'm the football idiot he says I am, it shouldn't be an issue.

You understand the concept of standing behind your claims, don't you Phil?

You wouldn't make false accusations, just to troll the board, and then hide behind your keyboard when called on it, would you?

I don't think you would, Phil, because you appear to have some integrity.

I'm just asking him to be a man, and stand behind his comment.

You are out of touch if you want a poll to secure your ? Planethood? Grow up man. You have devalued yourself....Why?

PhilFree

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

no one accused you of that

you were blasting the McCluster and Arenas picks citing Gosselin's top 100...and conveniently ignoring the fact Moeaki was #48 and Asomoah was like #54...

You cited a guy who gave us an A+ to prove your point on why our draft sucked.

In other words...

your and idiot

I didn't ignore anything, you coward. There you go, yet again.

I've done nothing but PRAISE the Asomoah pick the entire ****ing weekend.

How exactly am I ignoring his value?

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 10:22 PM

Hamas...

whoever you cherrypick your information from drafts almost as good as Carl Peterson...nice job!

**DeezNutz** · 04-25-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

I'll even say there was no player this time last year that was good of a pick as Asmogah sp?

True.

I'm sorry, but the specter of a dog shit QB looms large over this franchise, and I admit that it clouds my perception and potential optimism.

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I didn't ignore anything, you coward. There you go, yet again.

I've done nothing but PRAISE the Asomoah pick the entire ****ing weekend.

How exactly am I ignoring his value?

If we took Asomoah at 36, how would you have felt?

04-25-2010, 08:04 AM
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $104644	Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+ I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+ The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.
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Mr. Flopnuts FINALLY! The wait is over. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Is Now!!! Casino cash: $19947565	And in today's NFL it doesn't matter how devoid your roster is of talent. It's not a 5 year process anymore. It's from 1-3 tops in my humble opinion. That said, I'm still firmly on the 8-8 or GTFO band wagon.
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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1222442	OTW you are comparing apples to oranges my friend. This time last year the team didn't sign a guy like Chambers or Jones. Didn't draft anyone nearly as good as Berry or an impact player like McCluster. I'll even say there was no player this time last year that was good of a pick as Asmogah sp?
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	The rest of my picks from '08 Jalen Parmele: Took over KR duty for the Ravens last year and averaged 31 yards per return (7th rounder) Kerry Brown: Busted Out (5th) Lance Leggett: Never Stuck (7th) King Dunlap: Philly's back up LT (6th) Kellen Davis: Red zone threat for the Bears caught 3 TDs last year. (6th) Brian Johnston: We all remember him (6th) That was the rest of my '08 __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Hamas... whoever you cherrypick your information from drafts almost as good as Carl Peterson...nice job!
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