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Old 02-10-2011, 05:18 PM  
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Jovan Belcher, a gem found in the rough ?

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/nfl/kc/?r=1

ESPN.com's Bill Williamson and Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson believe the Chiefs have found a "gem" in ILB Jovan Belcher.

Belcher was primarily a special teamer as an undrafted rookie in 2009. He graduated to full-time starter in 2010, racking up 84 tackles. "He's a heavier guy who is a good banger in the 3-4 defense," Matt Williamson said. "He seems like a hard-nosed guy who has made the best of opportunity." Expect Belcher to remain in the same role next season.
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:22 PM   #151
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Every position could in theory be upgraded.

However upgrading at inside backer over Belcher is NOT pressing. His play was solid, and when you are in your second year and only first year starting and you are solid why would we be out trying to find an upgrade instead of allowing the player to ascend?

It's stupid as shit.
I never stated it was pressing. What I stated was that if the Chiefs passed on an opportunity to acquire a solid backup or even competition at that position, they'd be remiss in doing so.

Nothing less. I never stated he sucked, I never stated he shouldn't be the starter, I never stated he hadn't improved - nothing. None of the above.
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:24 PM   #152
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His argument is that Belcher shows signs of being an ascending player, and that there should be no rush to replace him, given the more pressing needs that this team has.

He does need to improve, but part of his struggles can also be directly attributed to the fact that guards can get out on him unmolested, and the fact is that in a battle between the guard and LB, the gurd is going to win that battle a 80-85% of the time.
And I've not stated anywhere in this thread that there should be a rush to replace him. I've pointed out his weaknesses and stated that the Chiefs would be remiss if they passed on a logical possibility of adding a backup or even competition at the spot.

"Logical" implying that it would be a no-brainer.
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:38 PM   #153
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If the Chiefs can find a replacement for Belcher in the draft or free agency, he'll be replaced.

He's not the "Thumper" that Crennel envisions for his defense.
I'd like to add that I think Crennel really likes Belcher, and what he brings to the table.
Given the fact that he gave belcher the responsibility of the mic'ed up helmet from game 1 on monday night in Arrowhead, I'm led to believe, that not only does he think he can play the position, but he also thinks he can be a leader on this defense.
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Old 02-11-2011, 07:54 PM   #154
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i admit to having a soft spot for UDFA's.....

i don't think anyone could have predicted the type of production we got from him last season...yeah, he can improve, but there were times when he looked great...and he made some crushing ****ing hits which our defense has not been known for in the past..


unrelated to the argument about him, but based on his play last year, if you re-did the 09 draft, he'd be a 4th maybe a 3rd rounder, no?
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Old 02-11-2011, 07:58 PM   #155
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i admit to having a soft spot for UDFA's.....

i don't think anyone could have predicted the type of production we got from him last season...yeah, he can improve, but there were times when he looked great...and he made some crushing ****ing hits which our defense has not been known for in the past..


unrelated to the argument about him, but based on his play last year, if you re-did the 09 draft, he'd be a 4th maybe a 3rd rounder, no?
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:35 AM   #156
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I agree with the nose tackle, center and see what they can do,free agent receiver!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:38 AM   #157
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:43 AM   #158
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So you think that Derrick Johnson needs to be replaced?
No, but you said the interior of our D needed upgraded. DJ plays on the interior. So it sounds like you think he needs replaced . I just wanted to know who you want to replace DJ.
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