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Old 03-13-2012, 11:51 AM   #1
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Not to mention that fact that it makes ZERO logical sense to sign Orton for just 1 year.

If he is gone after year 1, that means he SUCKED and therefore we were no better off than just keeping Cassel.

If he doesn't suck, then he's gonna be here longer than 1 year.
Ok 3 year deal for backup money?
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:56 AM   #2
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How about 1 vs 1? Say Cassel is out and they realize it's a mistake, We sign Orton to a 1 year deal.
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Ok 3 year deal for backup money?
Why would Orton want to sign on as a one year stopgap or a backup? It's possible that there won't be enough interest in him to do otherwise, but I think that's kind of unlikely given the number of teams looking for QBs.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:00 PM   #3
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Why would Orton want to sign on as a one year stopgap or a backup? It's possible that there won't be enough interest in him to do otherwise, but I think that's kind of unlikely given the number of teams looking for QBs.
Just saying it's a possibility that he signs somewhere as a backup, so why not here?
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:05 PM   #4
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Just saying it's a possibility that he signs somewhere as a backup, so why not here?
IMO, if Orton is available for backup prices, it's a no-brainer to sign him as Cassel's competition unless a better option (e.g. Manning) is available. The more interesting question is Cassel plus a lesser version of competition (e.g. Brady Quinn or Jason Campbell) versus a 3 year commitment to Orton.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:06 PM   #5
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IMO, if Orton is available for backup prices, it's a no-brainer to sign him as Cassel's competition unless a better option (e.g. Manning) is available. The more interesting question is Cassel plus a lesser version of competition (e.g. Brady Quinn or Jason Campbell) versus a 3 year commitment to Orton.
My point is we need a backup anyway, if Orton can be had cheap enough why not.
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My point is we need a backup anyway, if Orton can be had cheap enough why not.
I understand your point and I agreed with it. But the more interesting question is what we do if Orton isn't willing to sign for backup money. Both sides have to be willing to agree to get a contract signed.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:36 PM   #7
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I understand your point and I agreed with it. But the more interesting question is what we do if Orton isn't willing to sign for backup money. Both sides have to be willing to agree to get a contract signed.
Have Cassel back up Stanzi I guess.....more dreaming.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:42 PM   #8
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My point is we need a backup anyway, if Orton can be had cheap enough why not.
Orton doesn't want to be a backup. Part of the reason he expressed disinterest in KC originally is because he didn't want to deal with the whole Cassel situation.
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Part of the reason he expressed disinterest in KC originally is because he didn't want to deal with the whole Cassel situation.
Hmm...didn't know Orton was a Chiefs fan. Sounds like he should post on this board.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:09 PM   #10
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IMO, if Orton is available for backup prices, it's a no-brainer to sign him as Cassel's competition unless a better option (e.g. Manning) is available. The more interesting question is Cassel plus a lesser version of competition (e.g. Brady Quinn or Jason Campbell) versus a 3 year commitment to Orton.
You're assuming Orton wants to deal with competition. He's said publicly he wants to be a starter...
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You're assuming Orton wants to deal with competition. He's said publicly he wants to be a starter...
Wanting to and being a starter are two different things, Will he retire as opposed to being a backup?
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Wanting to and being a starter are two different things..
Self awareness is not one of his strong points.
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Wanting to and being a starter are two different things, Will he retire as opposed to being a backup?
Certainly not.

But don't you think he'll go to a place where he might have a CHANCE to start vs. being forced to compete with a guy that is arguably a lesser talent and has a huge head start?
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You're assuming Orton wants to deal with competition. He's said publicly he wants to be a starter...
I'm not really assuming that. I should have put "competition" in quotes because if Orton is signed, I'd expect him to be the starter. I pretty much agree with what you've been saying.
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