Chiefs Chiefs interested in Soliai and Manning could hold up FA in general - Page 10

Carlota69 · 03-13-2012, 09:08 AM

Soliai has suitors, but Peyton chase could be a factor
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 10:56 AM EDT

APMike Freeman of CBSSports.com raised an interesting point earlier today on Twitter.

“When does the Manning backlash begin?“

The answer could be “very soon,” when fans and media begin to realize that Peyton’s indecision could keep teams on the sidelines in free agency.

Multiple league sources have pointed out already that some teams will wait to see whether they land Peyton before opening the change purse for other players. One guy caught in that dilemma, we’re told, is Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai.

Soliai played under the franchise tag in 2011, and he’ll hit the market at 4:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday. A league source tells PFT that the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons are interested.

But three of those teams (Denver, Miami, San Fran) reportedly are (or, at to the Niners, may be) in the Peyton chase. And so, while other teams that aren’t maneuvering for Manning are interested in Soliai, it’s hard to max out the market if half of the interested teams are twiddling their thumbs for Peyton.

The Broncos have the cap space to allow them to start spending while waiting for Peyton. Still, they need to know how to best budget their money, especially if Peyton will be bringing Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday.

Bottom line? While free agency begins in five hours, it may not really get going until Peyton picks a team.

Setsuna · 03-13-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Seems like we've been saying this for the last three years.

"If Cassel sucks again this year, he's gone."

Eventually, we'll all wise up and realize he's here for the long haul, and that all this talk about competition is 100% bullshit.

patteeu · 03-13-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

How about 1 vs 1? Say Cassel is out and they realize it's a mistake, We sign Orton to a 1 year deal.

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Ok 3 year deal for backup money?

Why would Orton want to sign on as a one year stopgap or a backup? It's possible that there won't be enough interest in him to do otherwise, but I think that's kind of unlikely given the number of teams looking for QBs.

Chiefnj2 · 03-13-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Seems like we've been saying this for the last three years.

"If Cassel sucks again this year, he's gone."

Eventually, we'll all wise up and realize he's here for the long haul, and that all this talk about competition is 100% bullshit.

You expected the team to get rid of him after the 2010 season?

Imon Yourside · 03-13-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Why would Orton want to sign on as a one year stopgap or a backup? It's possible that there won't be enough interest in him to do otherwise, but I think that's kind of unlikely given the number of teams looking for QBs.

Just saying it's a possibility that he signs somewhere as a backup, so why not here?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-13-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

You expected the team to get rid of him after the 2010 season?

I don't expect them to ever get rid of him.

My comment is based on what we've heard from the fans.

"They have to see that Cassel isn't a guy that you can win a SB with."

"Pioli has to be losing patience, this will be Cassel's last year, IMO."

patteeu · 03-13-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Just saying it's a possibility that he signs somewhere as a backup, so why not here?

IMO, if Orton is available for backup prices, it's a no-brainer to sign him as Cassel's competition unless a better option (e.g. Manning) is available. The more interesting question is Cassel plus a lesser version of competition (e.g. Brady Quinn or Jason Campbell) versus a 3 year commitment to Orton.

Imon Yourside · 03-13-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

IMO, if Orton is available for backup prices, it's a no-brainer to sign him as Cassel's competition unless a better option (e.g. Manning) is available. The more interesting question is Cassel plus a lesser version of competition (e.g. Brady Quinn or Jason Campbell) versus a 3 year commitment to Orton.

My point is we need a backup anyway, if Orton can be had cheap enough why not.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-13-2012, 12:09 PM

Our QB situation reminds me of that scene from Major League where the two Indians fans in the bleachers are arguing about the Home Run.

*Crack of bat*

"Too high."

*ball lands 20 rows deep*

"What do you mean, too high?"

"I mean, it looked too high, like..."

"Who gives a shit, it's gone."

Chiefs Version:

"Cassel"

"Orton"

"Who gives a shit, we're screwed."

patteeu · 03-13-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

My point is we need a backup anyway, if Orton can be had cheap enough why not.

I understand your point and I agreed with it. But the more interesting question is what we do if Orton isn't willing to sign for backup money. Both sides have to be willing to agree to get a contract signed.

**the Talking Can** · 03-13-2012, 12:11 PM

cardinals have given up on kolb after one year

you don't chase bad money

Dayze · 03-13-2012, 12:11 PM

"They're still shitty"

zonachief · 03-13-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I like the sound of that.

Add in a #2 RB (Addai, BJGE) and we're golden.

Lamicheal james in rd 2?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-13-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

"They're still shitty"

Exactly.

Imon Yourside · 03-13-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I understand your point and I agreed with it. But the more interesting question is what we do if Orton isn't willing to sign for backup money. Both sides have to be willing to agree to get a contract signed.

Have Cassel back up Stanzi I guess.....more dreaming.

Chiefnj2 · 03-13-2012, 12:41 PM

I miss the days when free agency began at midnight. Even though contact was forbidden before the stroke of the clock you'd have new deals announced at 12:02 a.m.

Plus, you could wake up in the morning and say "God Damnit Carl" over your bowl of cereal.

03-13-2012, 09:08 AM
Carlota69 MVP Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas Casino cash: $9925282	Chiefs interested in Soliai and Manning could hold up FA in general Soliai has suitors, but Peyton chase could be a factor Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 10:56 AM EDT APMike Freeman of CBSSports.com raised an interesting point earlier today on Twitter. “When does the Manning backlash begin?“ The answer could be “very soon,” when fans and media begin to realize that Peyton’s indecision could keep teams on the sidelines in free agency. Multiple league sources have pointed out already that some teams will wait to see whether they land Peyton before opening the change purse for other players. One guy caught in that dilemma, we’re told, is Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai. Soliai played under the franchise tag in 2011, and he’ll hit the market at 4:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday. A league source tells PFT that the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons are interested. But three of those teams (Denver, Miami, San Fran) reportedly are (or, at to the Niners, may be) in the Peyton chase. And so, while other teams that aren’t maneuvering for Manning are interested in Soliai, it’s hard to max out the market if half of the interested teams are twiddling their thumbs for Peyton. The Broncos have the cap space to allow them to start spending while waiting for Peyton. Still, they need to know how to best budget their money, especially if Peyton will be bringing Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday. Bottom line? While free agency begins in five hours, it may not really get going until Peyton picks a team.
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OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2051115	Our QB situation reminds me of that scene from Major League where the two Indians fans in the bleachers are arguing about the Home Run. Crack of bat "Too high." ball lands 20 rows deep "What do you mean, too high?" "I mean, it looked too high, like..." "Who gives a shit, it's gone." Chiefs Version: "Cassel" "Orton" "Who gives a shit, we're screwed."
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	I miss the days when free agency began at midnight. Even though contact was forbidden before the stroke of the clock you'd have new deals announced at 12:02 a.m. Plus, you could wake up in the morning and say "God Damnit Carl" over your bowl of cereal. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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