Pat Robertson thinks a Manning injury would "serve them right"

[Bugeater]

I am finding myself in the awkward position of agreeing with this nutjob.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I am finding myself in the awkward position of agreeing with this nutjob.

As do I. I hope Manning goes down this year and never takes the field ever again, and it sets the donks back 10 years.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

As do I. I hope Manning goes down this year and never takes the field ever again, and it sets the donks back 10 years.

Wow.

If he goes down it will most likely be due to a knee or a shoulder, it won't be because of his neck. His neck is stronger than ever. Spinal fusion is actually pretty common in the NFL. There have been LB's and FB's who have had that surgery and continued to play at a high level.

[Quesadilla Joe]

"Once the fusion occurs, then really that fusion is going to be as strong as anything," said Dr. Eric McCarty, chief of sports medicine at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus.

"You do have to make sure thatit's healed and that the bones are completely fused to each other. But once that occurs, that's not going to break. But once you've had a nerve injury, nerves take a long time to regenerate, if at all, and if you've had a lot of compression on a nerve, you could have some permanent damage. Basically the nerve is the electrical power to the muscle, and sometimes that power gets crimped and it doesn't regenerate all the way. And that's the real issue in terms of recovery."

Former teammate Brandon Stokley played catch with the QB recently and said Manning's arm strength had returned and that "he looks great."

Players have returned to the NFL after fusion surgery, including former Panthers quarterback Chris Weinke, who had fusion surgery before his last season at Florida State. He played nine seasons — one in college, eight in the NFL — after his fusion surgery, including five seasons for current Broncos coach John Fox during Fox's tenure as coach at Carolina.

Dr. Robert Watkins, the renowned back specialist who performed Manning's surgery, announced Feb. 2 he had cleared Manning to resume his playing career.

In 2010, Dr. Wellington K. Hsu, a surgeon and assistant professor at Northwestern University, published a study of 99 NFL players who had suffered herniated discs. Of those 99 players, 53 had surgeries and 46 opted for nonsurgical treatments. Hsu's study found players who had surgery had higher return-to-play rates and longer careers.

McCarty said there is concern, over time, not about the fusion, but rather the area just above and just below the fusion.


"What you do need to be careful of are the adjacent levels, above and below the fusion," McCarty said. "Because now you have this segment of vertebrae that is stiff with flexible areas above and below so you are at risk of developing some degenerative conditions of the areas above and below the fusion.

"Not necessarily a catastrophic risk, but there is a risk, and that's true of everyone. That can cause some pain and sometimes you have to go in and fuse those levels. But there have been a lot of athletes, football players, who have played with single level fusion and gone off and played successfully."

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...medium=twitter

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

As do I. I hope Manning goes down this year and never takes the field ever again, and it sets the donks back 10 years.

I hope your steroids make your balls fall off and your liver fail and you slip on the bench and take a full bar to the throat.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Grunt, grunt, squeeze. Inject, lift, inject. Open bottle, swallow pills. Grunt, grunt, squeeze. Inject, lift, inject

Originally Posted by vailpass

I hope your steroids make your balls fall off and your liver fail.

That would be karma.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by vailpass

I hope your steroids make your balls fall off and your liver fail and you slip on the bench and take a full bar to the throat.

I hope you get the chance to one day tell me this in person.

And I hope your kids, if you managed to have any, get leukemia and you die a long slow death while you watch your parents get fist ****ed to death by group of mad rapists as the last thing you ever see.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I hope you get the chance to one day tell me this in person.

I doubt that you frequent the same establishments.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I doubt that you frequent the same establishments.

You're right I generally don't venture into transvestite bars.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

You're right I generally don't venture into transvestite bars.

Look, chances are you're a good person out there in the real world. We'd probably kick back and bullshit at a bar watching a game. I tend to get along well with rival fans because I'm a fan of NFL football, and I root for the Broncos. And I like shooting the shit with guys who really follow their teams.

But you do come across as some kind of hyper-macho muscle head on this site. You use overly aggressive phraseology. It's funny, it lends itself to humor quite well. I doubt that you speak this way in real life. No biggie. It's a message board. But as long as you do it there will be the occasional person who flips you shit for it. I like to think that you're chuckling behind your screen in these threads. That you also see the humor and you're a willing participant.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I hope you get the chance to one day tell me this in person.

You poor bastard.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by vailpass

You poor bastard.

I know. It's kind of sad and funny at the same time.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I know. It's kind of sad and funny at the same time.

The part where he visits transvestite bars, or where his parents get fisted to death?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I know. It's kind of sad and funny at the same time.

And malodorous too I'd imagine.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

As do I. I hope Manning goes down this year and never takes the field ever again, and it sets the donks back 10 years.

I am not sure how they recovered from the McDaniels set back so quickly, anybody else would still be dealing with it. He made some major blunders, that should have been crippling.