Trade Down Horseshit Rumors From 2009

[The Franchise]

A classically built, strong-armed quarterback, Stafford has not yet caught on as the consensus No. 1 pick.ESPN.com draft analyst Todd McShay, for example, said recently the Lions face a "nightmare" decision because Stafford is "not mentally ready" to take on the pressures of being the No. 1 overall pick. McShay said that scouts from at least 10 teams agreed with that assessment and added: "I just don't feel great about building my organization around him."NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock told a Detroit radio station that "there are some things about him that bother me," and even Stafford's biggest supporter advocates with a negative argument. Yes, Mel Kiper Jr. said the Lions should select Stafford primarily because "there is nobody else to take."

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

A classically built, strong-armed quarterback, Stafford has not yet caught on as the consensus No. 1 pick.ESPN.com draft analyst Todd McShay, for example, said recently the Lions face a "nightmare" decision because Stafford is "not mentally ready" to take on the pressures of being the No. 1 overall pick. McShay said that scouts from at least 10 teams agreed with that assessment and added: "I just don't feel great about building my organization around him."NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock told a Detroit radio station that "there are some things about him that bother me," and even Stafford's biggest supporter advocates with a negative argument. Yes, Mel Kiper Jr. said the Lions should select Stafford primarily because "there is nobody else to take."

I don't think this is too far from the truth.

Stafford, like Freeman, has shown great potential but both have been very careless at times. Stafford is still ahead of Freeman but both teams have been reluctant to to extend either QB.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't think this is too far from the truth.

Stafford, like Freeman, has shown great potential but both have been very careless at times. Stafford is still ahead of Freeman but both teams have been reluctant to to extend either QB.

And they both play on teams with TERRIBLE, AWFUL defenses and ho-hum head coaches.

Funny how that works.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

And they both play on teams with TERRIBLE, AWFUL defenses and ho-hum head coaches.

Funny how that works.

What's your point? If you're saying what I think you're saying, you couldn't be more wrong.

Great players transcend. Stafford hasn't, even with Megatron and other suitable weapons. He's made the same boneheaded mistakes that he made at Georgia, when his team was similarly loaded.

Freeman had one good season out of four. He's been sporadic: A few good games followed by complete shit games. He's been unable to put together back-to-back seasons of consistency and he's been unable to ascend in the NFL.

Great players are great, regardless of coaching. Jamaal Charles is NOT a great running back on a 2-14 team because of Maurice ****ing Carthon.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What's your point? If you're saying what I think you're saying, you couldn't be more wrong.

Great players transcend. Stafford hasn't, even with Megatron and other suitable weapons. He's made the same boneheaded mistakes that he made at Georgia, when his team was similarly loaded.

Freeman had one good season out of four. He's been sporadic: A few good games followed by complete shit games. He's been unable to put together back-to-back seasons of consistency and he's been unable to ascend in the NFL.

Great players are great, regardless of coaching. Jamaal Charles is NOT a great running back on a 2-14 team because of Maurice ****ing Carthon.

IIRC, the Lions have been trying to work on an extension with Stafford since last year. Now, that might be due to his cap#, but they view him as a franchise QB.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Sorter

IIRC, the Lions have been trying to work on an extension with Stafford since last year. Now, that might be due to his cap#, but they view him as a franchise QB.

IMO, if they viewed him as a Franchise QB, the deal would have been done before the end of last season.

His deal expires at the end of the 2013 season. If they wanted to avoid the Franchise Tag, they should have done so before now.

I think that speaks volumes at this point. Hell, even ****ing Sanchez was extended.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

IMO, if they viewed him as a Franchise QB, the deal would have been done before the end of last season.

His deal expires at the end of the 2013 season. If they wanted to avoid the Franchise Tag, they should have done so before now.

I think that speaks volumes at this point. Hell, even ****ing Sanchez was extended.

Haha, yeah he was. And what a mess that was. Fun to watch. Lets go after Manning and then extend Mark after that to make him happy. The Jets always help me cope with the Chiefs moves a little bit. Even with that though, they have seen much more success in the playoffs than we have.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

IMO, if they viewed him as a Franchise QB, the deal would have been done before the end of last season.

His deal expires at the end of the 2013 season. If they wanted to avoid the Franchise Tag, they should have done so before now.

I think that speaks volumes at this point. Hell, even ****ing Sanchez was extended.

I think that they're struggling on terms/seeing how the market plays out while additionally trying to figure out what they're going to do with the cap hell they are facing.

Pure speculation though.

I'd expect them to re-sign/restructure before the end of 2013.