Peter King: Chiefs will listen to trade offers for Albert

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I would love that, but I have a hard time believing it could come true.

If Dorsey is smart, he'll take anything he can get for 1.1 and Albert. Just by moving down to #8 and trading Albert, he'll likely open up $8-10 million in salary cap space, meaning he can sign more players that can have an immediate impact in 2013, which appears to be their goal.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If Dorsey is smart, he'll take anything he can get for 1.1 and Albert. Just by moving down to #8 and trading Albert, he'll likely open up $8-10 million in salary cap space, meaning he can sign more players that can have an immediate impact in 2013, which appears to be their goal.

Haha

You're on a roll lately.

So, we traded what amounts to a mid to late first for a 29 year old game manager that is known for taking too many sacks even with an elite offensive line and you think a good way to build around him is to leave him without a left tackle?

I like it...that might just give us a pick high enough to have a second chance at drafting a QB at the top of te draft.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Haha

You're on a roll lately.

So, we traded what amounts to a mid to late first for a 29 year old game manager that is known for taking too many sacks even with an elite offensive line and you think a good way to build around him is to leave him without a left tackle?

I like it...that might just give us a pick high enough to have a second chance at drafting a QB at the top of te draft.

It has absolutely nothing to do me, it has to do with Dorsey and Reid's philosophy and the moves they've made this offseason.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It has absolutely nothing to do me, it has to do with Dorsey and Reid's philosophy and the moves they've made this offseason.

If they trade Albert, they aren't gonna trade down unless they still stay in the top five.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If they trade Albert, they aren't gonna trade down unless they still stay in the top five.

We don't have to take our LT at no 1. We can trade down.

There are 3 top 15 LT prospects this year...

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If Dorsey is smart, he'll take anything he can get for 1.1

If Dorsey is smart, he should play his best hand of Texas Hold 'em poker ever. Maybe can force a team to go "all in" instead of just grabbing a pot of no significant size. Especially with the Jags throwing in a "raise".

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Coogs

If Dorsey is smart, he should play his best hand of Texas Hold 'em poker ever. Maybe can force a team to go "all in" instead of just grabbing a pot of no significant size. Especially with the Jags throwing in a "raise".

I disagree. Take whatever you can get, whether it's a first in 2014 or a first and a second or whatever. They clearly don't want to be there and have let that fact be known since his first PC.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If Dorsey is smart, he'll take anything he can get for 1.1 and Albert. Just by moving down to #8 and trading Albert, he'll likely open up $8-10 million in salary cap space, meaning he can sign more players that can have an immediate impact in 2013, which appears to be their goal.

I hate that.

We have the picks and opportunity to do a proper rebuild and we look like we're playing "win now."

Look at what the Lambs did by trading down, going BPA, and immediately turning themselves into a competitive team. That team went 8-8 and took the NFC Champs to overtime twice.

Win now does not have to = FA. Drafting good players makes a good team and trading down this year (if we can) would give us picks now and in the future...

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I hate that.

We have the picks and opportunity to do a proper rebuild and we look like we're playing "win now."

This has been discussed over and over.....The Chiefs can not ask their fanbase to sit and wait another 1-3 years for a rebuild to come to fruition. Not when they have been as bad as they have been since 2007. The bleeding has to stop now. There are no "sure things" at Qb like last year.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

This has been discussed over and over.....The Chiefs can not ask their fanbase to sit and wait another 1-3 years for a rebuild to come to fruition. Not when they have been as bad as they have been since 2007. The bleeding has to stop now. There are no "sure things" at Qb like last year.

We need to hit on the picks this year. The last 4 years we've done a terrible job at adding talent in the draft.

That's 4 years older our core players are. If we don't do a solid job this year and next what we have will be declining before what we add hit's their prime...

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

This has been discussed over and over.....The Chiefs can not ask their fanbase to sit and wait another 1-3 years for a rebuild to come to fruition. Not when they have been as bad as they have been since 2007. The bleeding has to stop now. There are no "sure things" at Qb like last year.

Yeah and we still have plenty of good draft picks. The way it stands now we can draft starters but not play them till they're ready. And even though we signed a FA at a position the price tag isn't so high that we won't play a rook if wins the job.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I hate that.

We have the picks and opportunity to do a proper rebuild and we look like we're playing "win now."

Dude, every single move they've made this offseason is to "Win Now".

You don't trade for a starting QB with the #34 overall pick if you're not wanting to "win now".

You don't sign two of the free agent market's best cornerbacks if you're not wanting to "win now".

You don't sign a pass catching TE that had but one drop all season last year if you're not wanting to "win now".

You don't sign a 28 year old run stopping defensive end monster if you're not wanting to "win now".

And finally, you don't make your Franchise WR the third highest paid in the game or your punter the highest paid punter in the game, if you don't want to "win now".

The Chiefs want to win in 2013.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, every single move they've made this offseason is to "Win Now".

You don't trade for a starting QB with the #34 overall pick if you're not wanting to "win now".

You don't sign two of the free agent market's best cornerbacks if you're not wanting to "win now".

You don't sign a pass catching TE that had but one drop all season last year if you're not wanting to "win now".

You don't sign a 28 year old run stopping defensive end monster if you're not wanting to "win now".

And finally, you don't make your Franchise WR the third highest paid in the game or your punter the highest paid punter in the game, if you don't want to "win now".

The Chiefs want to win in 2013.

Doing all of that and then protecting your veteran "win now" QB with a rookie LT? Definition of reeruned.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Doing all of that and then protecting your veteran "win now" QB with a rookie LT? Definition of reeruned.

In all fairness we do have the draft yet. And while I don't see them doing it if they did take a QB somewhere in the 1st/2nd the whole Planet mindset would change.

We would have traded for a QB, signed a QB, and drafted a QB and there would no longer be any doubt this team values and is attempting to improve the position.

I'd hate trading Albert or going Joeckel but if we turned around and used a 2nd rounder on a QB that fell I'd feel completely different.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Doing all of that and then protecting your veteran "win now" QB with a rookie LT? Definition of reeruned.

Not necessarily.

For whatever reason, the Chiefs front offices have wanted to ship out Albert of possible. Haley rode his ass, made him lose weight and effectively changed his game, which was leverage and strength. I have no idea how Reid plans to scheme his offensive line but clearly, they'll move on if possible.

And to say that a rookie LT would be a downgrade is complete speculation. We've seen plenty of first round tackle start day one and be effective, if not play at a Pro Bowl level out of the gate.