My final Geno thread before the draft

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Joeckel doesn't fit Reid's "LT" players, based on history.

We are drafting BPA and Joeckel is the BPA. Him or Fisher. One of the LT's, unless we can't trade Albert.

We don't trade Albert and it's Dion Jordan time.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We are drafting BPA and Joeckel is the BPA. Him or Fisher. One of the LT's, unless we can't trade Albert.

We don't trade Albert and it's Dion Jordan time.

So bpa doesn't account for need and or positional value?

If joeckel and fisher are bpa, an that's what we are drafting why does itatter in terms of what they do with Albert?

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by O.city

So bpa doesn't account for need and or positional value?

If joeckel and fisher are bpa, an that's what we are drafting why does itatter in terms of what they do with Albert?

BPA will determine what Dorsey values more a LT or a QB.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

So bpa doesn't account for need and or positional value?

If joeckel and fisher are bpa, an that's what we are drafting why does itatter in terms of what they do with Albert?

I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a LT and keep Albert regardless.

QB is not a need now. We have our guy. And he's going to be here awhile. Let it go.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a LT and keep Albert regardless.

QB is not a need now. We have our guy. And he's going to be here awhile. Let it go.

You've become the most transparent guy on cp. I never argued for a qb. Take that up with snr.

You throw it at the geno guys for turning every thread into geno stuff, but everytime someone legitimately tries to talk about a prospect they don't like for a legit reason , you bring out the "they aren't taking geno, get over it" mantra thus throwin the thread.

You agree with whatever move the regime makes. That's fine. But about a month ago you talked about how disappointing it would be to take a lt bla bla. It's obvious to see how you feel on the matter, which again is fine.

But enough with the running down others when we try to have a legit discussion about something because you don't like it

[-King-]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a LT and keep Albert regardless.

QB is not a need now. We have our guy. And he's going to be here awhile. Let it go.

Holy ****ing contradiction.

So we can draft LT which isn't a need right now and still keep Albert.

But we can't draft a QB which isn't a need right now and still keep Alex Smith?

... Albert who is younger than Smith and has started 87% of his games since being drafted as opposed to Alex Smith's 67% (due to injury and getting benched for guys like Shaun Hill and JT OSullivan)

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We are drafting BPA and Joeckel is the BPA. Him or Fisher. One of the LT's, unless we can't trade Albert.

We don't trade Albert and it's Dion Jordan time.

rofl. "Joekel is the BPA". You smoke some good shit, Chong.
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[HonestChieffan]

Marginal at best

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I did. Geno is not a franchise QB like you are claiming. Hell he's not that great of a QB prospect at that.

If we take a QB, I want a guy who we believe can be a franchise QB one day. It's obvious that we aren't the only one's who believe Geno isn't that guy.

The LT's are the best prospects in this draft and that's our plan.

No, you're not answering his question.

His question is at what point does positional value overtake individual player value.

I hesitate to paraphrase, but his thinking is that no LT will ever have 1:1 value. So he will always choose a "lesser" player at another position over the top LT.

Meaning to him, if he agrees for the sake of argument that Geno is not a franchise QB, he would still take him over any of the tackle prospects, despite their (again, theoretical for the sake of argument) higher grades.

So basically a QB with a 91 rating is more valuable than a LT with a 98.

(This happens to be my thinking as well)

His point was at what point to you agree with that, if ever? And then further, with which positions would that be true?

Is that a fair characterization SNR?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

No, you're not answering his question.

His question is at what point does positional value overtake individual player value.

I hesitate to paraphrase, but his thinking is that no LT will ever have 1:1 value. So he will always choose a "lesser" player at another position over the top LT.

Meaning to him, if he agrees for the sake of argument that Geno is not a franchise QB, he would still take him over any of the tackle prospects, despite their (again, theoretical for the sake of argument) higher grades.

So basically a QB with a 91 rating is more valuable than a LT with a 98.

(This happens to be my thinking as well)

His point was at what point to you agree with that, if ever? And then further, with which positions would that be true?

Is that a fair characterization SNR?

We have our QB. Our coach wanted him. Bad. And it's obvious that he thinks that it's not a need.

They are trying to win NOW. And LT is a huge piece to Reid's offense.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We have our QB. Our coach wanted him. Bad. And it's obvious that he thinks that it's not a need.

They are trying to win NOW. And LT is a huge piece to Reid's offense.

You're still avoiding the question.

As a side note, let's say LT is a huge piece, and let's say our coach wanted the QB "bad", then why go with a rookie? Doesn't seem like a logical choice for protecting your prized investment.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

You're still avoiding the question.

As a side note, let's say LT is a huge piece, and let's say our coach wanted the QB "bad", then why go with a rookie? Doesn't seem like a logical choice for protecting your prized investment.

Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.

Based on?

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.

Your damn right but Dorsey and Hunt are.

Power structure goes Hunt > Dorsey > Reid.

Reids not making the call come draft day. Dorsey is and he even said so.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.

I didn't mention Geno. My question was about the tackles and related more to Albert and the "win now" mentality. If they think they can win with Alex Smith, and we have a franchised LT who's already a proven player in the league (and who Andy Reid has supported very openly and publicly for years), then why are we (fans) even talking about drafting a LT? It wouldn't make any logical sense to endanger our star QB Alex Smith, or the potential for winning immediately, by starting a rookie LT.