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Old 04-07-2013, 09:20 PM   #1
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I did. Geno is not a franchise QB like you are claiming. Hell he's not that great of a QB prospect at that.

If we take a QB, I want a guy who we believe can be a franchise QB one day. It's obvious that we aren't the only one's who believe Geno isn't that guy.

The LT's are the best prospects in this draft and that's our plan.
No, you're not answering his question.

His question is at what point does positional value overtake individual player value.

I hesitate to paraphrase, but his thinking is that no LT will ever have 1:1 value. So he will always choose a "lesser" player at another position over the top LT.

Meaning to him, if he agrees for the sake of argument that Geno is not a franchise QB, he would still take him over any of the tackle prospects, despite their (again, theoretical for the sake of argument) higher grades.

So basically a QB with a 91 rating is more valuable than a LT with a 98.

(This happens to be my thinking as well)

His point was at what point to you agree with that, if ever? And then further, with which positions would that be true?

Is that a fair characterization SNR?
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:24 PM   #2
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No, you're not answering his question.

His question is at what point does positional value overtake individual player value.

I hesitate to paraphrase, but his thinking is that no LT will ever have 1:1 value. So he will always choose a "lesser" player at another position over the top LT.

Meaning to him, if he agrees for the sake of argument that Geno is not a franchise QB, he would still take him over any of the tackle prospects, despite their (again, theoretical for the sake of argument) higher grades.

So basically a QB with a 91 rating is more valuable than a LT with a 98.

(This happens to be my thinking as well)

His point was at what point to you agree with that, if ever? And then further, with which positions would that be true?

Is that a fair characterization SNR?
We have our QB. Our coach wanted him. Bad. And it's obvious that he thinks that it's not a need.

They are trying to win NOW. And LT is a huge piece to Reid's offense.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:26 PM   #3
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We have our QB. Our coach wanted him. Bad. And it's obvious that he thinks that it's not a need.

They are trying to win NOW. And LT is a huge piece to Reid's offense.
You're still avoiding the question.

As a side note, let's say LT is a huge piece, and let's say our coach wanted the QB "bad", then why go with a rookie? Doesn't seem like a logical choice for protecting your prized investment.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:28 PM   #4
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You're still avoiding the question.

As a side note, let's say LT is a huge piece, and let's say our coach wanted the QB "bad", then why go with a rookie? Doesn't seem like a logical choice for protecting your prized investment.
Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:29 PM   #5
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Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.
Based on?
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Based on?
Uh we traded multiple high picks for a QB.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:35 PM   #7
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Uh we traded multiple high picks for a QB.
Tired of the debate? Stop contributing to it. You've said your piece. Everyone now knows exactly how you feel. So you are now able to not talk about it again, same for the nuthuggers,BTW
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:30 PM   #8
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Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.
Your damn right but Dorsey and Hunt are.

Power structure goes Hunt > Dorsey > Reid.

Reids not making the call come draft day. Dorsey is and he even said so.
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Your damn right but Dorsey and Hunt are.

Power structure goes Hunt > Dorsey > Reid.
No, it doesn't.

Maybe take a step away from the computer
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No, it doesn't.

Maybe take a step away from the computer
Hunt said Dorsey and Reid report to him.

Dorsey = Gm. GM has more power than the coach and has the power on personnel moves.

Reid = HC. Head coachs job is to coach and lead his team.

Am I missing anything? Obviously you think Reid has the most power.
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Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.
I didn't mention Geno. My question was about the tackles and related more to Albert and the "win now" mentality. If they think they can win with Alex Smith, and we have a franchised LT who's already a proven player in the league (and who Andy Reid has supported very openly and publicly for years), then why are we (fans) even talking about drafting a LT? It wouldn't make any logical sense to endanger our star QB Alex Smith, or the potential for winning immediately, by starting a rookie LT.
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We have our QB. Our coach wanted him. Bad. And it's obvious that he thinks that it's not a need.

They are trying to win NOW. And LT is a huge piece to Reid's offense.
Thats why we have a top 10 LT in Albert. If they plan to win now you stick with Albert. If you draft a rookie you arent planning to win now.

Dorsey makes the final call. Actually the power structure is Hunt > Dorsey > Reid. And both Clark and John both really like Geno.

This isnt gonna end well for you.
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No, you're not answering his question.

His question is at what point does positional value overtake individual player value.

I hesitate to paraphrase, but his thinking is that no LT will ever have 1:1 value. So he will always choose a "lesser" player at another position over the top LT.

Meaning to him, if he agrees for the sake of argument that Geno is not a franchise QB, he would still take him over any of the tackle prospects, despite their (again, theoretical for the sake of argument) higher grades.

So basically a QB with a 91 rating is more valuable than a LT with a 98.

(This happens to be my thinking as well)

His point was at what point to you agree with that, if ever? And then further, with which positions would that be true?

Is that a fair characterization SNR?
Yes. That's exactly it. You explained it better and more clearly, too.
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