Alex Smith vs. Rich Gannon

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

Pistol's not a gimmick. It's here to stay.

Then the QBs running it Won't be.

They will be dead inside of 3 years.

RG111 inside of 2

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Then the QBs running it Won't.

They will be dead inside of 3 years.

RG111 inside of 2

I think you're showing how little you know about the pistol offense.

It's just a formation. The QB is closer to the line of scrimmage.

You can run the zone read out of the pistol but you don't have to.

You can hand the ball to the back or run play-action.

It's not like the QB has to run it EVERY time just cause you're in the pistol formation.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

I think you're showing how little you know about the pistol offense.

It's just a formation. The QB is closer to the line of scrimmage.

You can run the zone read out of the pistol but you don't have to.

You can hand the ball to the back or run play-action.

It's not like the QB has to run it EVERY time just cause you're in the pistol formation.

I think YOU are showing your knowlege.

The pistol is more than just a formation. It is a scheme run out of that formation.
Its the pistol OFFENSE.
And that offense exposes the QB more than any other.
Tell me I'm wrong.
And BTW. We ran the pistol long before Harbaugh or Kaep even thought about San Fran

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

I think YOU are showing your knowlege.

The pistol is more than just a formation. It is a scheme run out of that formation.
Its the pistol OFFENSE.
And that offense exposes the QB more than any other.
Tell me I'm wrong.
And BTW. We ran the pistol long before Harbaugh or Kaep even thought about San Fran

Chris Ault created it in 2005 so I'm not sure how you were running it long before Harbs and co.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

Chris Ault created it in 2005 so I'm not sure how you were running it long before Harbs and co.

Chiefs ran some in 08.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by BCD

Chiefs ran some in 08.

Thigpen?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

Thigpen?

Yes

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

I think YOU are showing your knowlege.

The pistol is more than just a formation. It is a scheme run out of that formation.
Its the pistol OFFENSE.
And that offense exposes the QB more than any other.
Tell me I'm wrong.
And BTW. We ran the pistol long before Harbaugh or Kaep even thought about San Fran

And furthermore. It's not like the 9ers or Skins have to run the pistol to be effective. We gashed people out of traditional sets last year.

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

I think YOU are showing your knowlege.

The pistol is more than just a formation. It is a scheme run out of that formation.
Its the pistol OFFENSE.
And that offense exposes the QB more than any other.
Tell me I'm wrong.
And BTW. We ran the pistol long before Harbaugh or Kaep even thought about San Fran

You are wrong. Pistol is just a formation, like the shotgun formation.


"The Pistol formation is a hybrid formation that utilizes strengths from both the Shotgun and single back (ace) formations.

"The "Pistol" formation was devised by Chris Ault at the University of Nevada and made its debut in the 2004 Wolf Pack football season. Ault was eager to find a way to run the football despite playing in the WAC conference (notorious for its passing offense). Ault wanted to utilize basic zone blocking techniques but wanted to get the ball to his running backs quicker with the running back accelerating towards the LOS.

"Ault realized that by placing the QB in the backfield the time needed for the quarterback to get to the RB was reduced. He did not, however, want to utilize a traditional shotgun look in which both the QB and RB were positioned 7 yards in the backfield because such a formation caused the play to develop slowly.

"The Coach also wanted his back running downhill when taking the snap and consequently positioned the QB directly in front of the back (QB 4 yards behind the LOS, RB 3 yards behind the quarterback). The result was the "Pistol" formation, shown below in a 4-wide spread formation that is very similar to a typical ace formation.




http://www.shakinthesouthland.com/20...rt-i-evolution

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

You are wrong. Pistol is just a formation, like the shotgun formation.


"The Pistol formation is a hybrid formation that utilizes strengths from both the Shotgun and single back (ace) formations.

"The "Pistol" formation was devised by Chris Ault at the University of Nevada and made its debut in the 2004 Wolf Pack football season. Ault was eager to find a way to run the football despite playing in the WAC conference (notorious for its passing offense). Ault wanted to utilize basic zone blocking techniques but wanted to get the ball to his running backs quicker with the running back accelerating towards the LOS.

"Ault realized that by placing the QB in the backfield the time needed for the quarterback to get to the RB was reduced. He did not, however, want to utilize a traditional shotgun look in which both the QB and RB were positioned 7 yards in the backfield because such a formation caused the play to develop slowly.

"The Coach also wanted his back running downhill when taking the snap and consequently positioned the QB directly in front of the back (QB 4 yards behind the LOS, RB 3 yards behind the quarterback). The result was the "Pistol" formation, shown below in a 4-wide spread formation that is very similar to a typical ace formation.




http://www.shakinthesouthland.com/20...rt-i-evolution

This is accurate.

Additionally, there's a thread started by Direckshun that should provide a bit more in-depth knowledge to to the alignment and why it is successful.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Sorter

This is accurate.

Additionally, there's a thread started by Direckshun that should provide a bit more in-depth knowledge to to the alignment and why it is successful.

So how come the 9ers and the Skins run a ton of the same pays catered to mobile QBs out of that formation?
Ill concede that its just a formation but everyone seems to run the Ault offense out of it.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

So how come the 9ers and the Skins run a ton of the same pays catered to mobile QBs out of that formation?

Because they can.