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Old 08-31-2013, 08:49 PM  
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Alex Smith vs. Rich Gannon
My view is that Andy Reid has no use for "game manager" QBs. What skills did Rich Gannon have that Alex Smith does not? Rich Gannon passed for about 4500 yards one year a Reid-like offense. Why can't Alex Smith do the same? Not saying he will, but help me understand why it's not going to happen.
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:20 PM   #136
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He has Joe's brain?

Jesus...
I even put the disclaimer.
Which was only there because of how stupid you are...Yet STILL
Wow. just wow.
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:21 PM   #137
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I even put the disclaimer.
Which was only there because of how stupid you are...Yet STILL
Wow. just wow.
You SAID, "Joe's Arm".

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Old 08-31-2013, 11:22 PM   #138
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Who gives a shit what the trend is.

When Mobile QBs start WINNING SBs over pocket passers
You let me know.
Steve Young won a Super Bowl, but I digress.

I think the historical argument is a tricky one in this situation because this the first group of QB's, that I can remember at least, that have been able to run and throw really well. I think before (With the exception of Young, and maaaaaybe McNabb) it was either or.
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:23 PM   #139
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I would say slightly above.

Did you watch the Steelers game?
He made a couple of nice throws. If his arm is indeed top 10-15, combined with his 40 wonderlic...this is going to be great season.
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:27 PM   #140
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You SAID, "Joe's Arm".

Dick.
What.....the...

WHAT??

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Old 08-31-2013, 11:29 PM   #141
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Steve Young won a Super Bowl, but I digress.

I think the historical argument is a tricky one in this situation because this the first group of QB's, that I can remember at least, that have been able to run and throw really well. I think before (With the exception of Young, and maaaaaybe McNabb) it was either or.
He won because he was the highest rated QB in history and threw 6 tds though.
Not because he was running a pistol gimmick.
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You might pick the pipe up. I hear it's soothing when you walk around with a stick up your ass.
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:35 PM   #144
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Steve Young won a Super Bowl, but I digress.

I think the historical argument is a tricky one in this situation because this the first group of QB's, that I can remember at least, that have been able to run and throw really well. I think before (With the exception of Young, and maaaaaybe McNabb) it was either or.
Oh, and BS.
They have been drafting the shit out of mobile QBs for a cpl decades now.
Who is this first group that is better than the ones before?
Vick, McNabb, Culpepper and McNair stand up very well against Kaep, RG111, and Newton.
All smoked in the POs and SBs by pocket passers.
No one can run as fast as the ball can fly.
It helps to be able run, but SBs are won with the arm.
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He made a couple of nice throws. If his arm is indeed top 10-15, combined with his 40 wonderlic...this is going to be great season.
The correlation of wonderlic to quarterback success is non existent.
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He won because he was the highest rated QB in history and threw 6 tds though.
Not because he was running a pistol gimmick.
Pistol's not a gimmick. It's here to stay.
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:56 PM   #147
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Pistol's not a gimmick. It's here to stay.
Then the QBs running it Won't be.

They will be dead inside of 3 years.

RG111 inside of 2
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Oh, and BS.
They have been drafting the shit out of mobile QBs for a cpl decades now.
Who is this first group that is better than the ones before?
Vick, McNabb, Culpepper and McNair stand up very well against Kaep, RG111, and Newton.
All smoked in the POs and SBs by pocket passers.
No one can run as fast as the ball can fly.
It helps to be able run, but SBs are won with the arm.
I'm not disputing that. I think these young guys have the arm(s) to win titles.

I don't think they're losing anything in the passing game because they can run.

Vick, McNabb and Culpepper were no where NEAR as accurate in the start of their careers as RG3 and Kaep.
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Then the QBs running it Won't.

They will be dead inside of 3 years.

RG111 inside of 2
I think you're showing how little you know about the pistol offense.

It's just a formation. The QB is closer to the line of scrimmage.

You can run the zone read out of the pistol but you don't have to.

You can hand the ball to the back or run play-action.

It's not like the QB has to run it EVERY time just cause you're in the pistol formation.
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Gannon has excelled in throwing 25-to-30-yard intermediate routes with accuracy and even unleashed a few 50-to-55-yard throws. That arm strength has allowed the Raiders to lengthen some of their routes for Jerry Rice and Jerry Porter...

Somebody, please let me know when Alex begins to excel at "throwing 25-to-30-yard intermediate routes with accuracy".

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=1838981
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