Chiefs Alex Smith vs. Rich Gannon - Page 17

FringeNC · 08-31-2013, 08:49 PM

My view is that Andy Reid has no use for "game manager" QBs. What skills did Rich Gannon have that Alex Smith does not? Rich Gannon passed for about 4500 yards one year a Reid-like offense. Why can't Alex Smith do the same? Not saying he will, but help me understand why it's not going to happen.

Jakemall · 09-02-2013, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

They both played well for new teams, no matter how you want to try to rationalize it. There's no reason Alex Smith should not perform well here immediately.

Oh, I don't disagree with your bottom line. It was your argument that I felt was a little shaky.

Jakemall · 09-03-2013, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Smith has 12 4th qtr comebacks and is Gannons age when Oakland got him.

Had 6 in 2011 alone.

I think Elway was at 45ish?

beach tribe · 09-03-2013, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

I think Elway was at 45ish?

The true number is 35. He was one of the best ever for sure........unless he left enough time for Montana of course.

keg in kc · 09-03-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

Oh, I don't disagree with your bottom line. It was your argument that I felt was a little shaky.

I wasn't using them as an argument as much as I was using them as examples. There's this weird idea here that we should give a 29-year old, 8-year vet QB who purportedly knows the playbook well enough to coach it some kind of grace period to get up to speed, like this season is an evaluation and development year. When the reality is that he needs to hit the ground running. And I don't understand why anybody would expect less than that.

The ultimate goal here is to become a playoff team, and trading for Alex Smith is a move that speaks to immediacy with regards to that goal. He has one of the top RBs in the league, he has one of the top WRs in the league, he has what I think should be a quality #2 WR in Avery, he has a variety of good players at both TE and WR, all of whom are able to catch the ball. The main question, I think, is the interior offensive line, but I believe that should work out, too. So taken all together I can't see any reasonable justification for limiting expectations for this offense, or for Alex Smith. They're as loaded as any unit we've seen since the '02-05 period, and they're coached by an aggressive, offensive-minded staff. They chose him as their 'guy' and there's no reason he shouldn't be expected to perform at a very high level.

I have similar expectations for the other side of the ball, too.

This is more talented than any 2-win team has a right to be. Due in no small part to the circumstances that led directly to them winning only 2 games last year (i.e. coaching and QB play). They should be in the playoff picture by the season's end, although I don't expect them to quite make it.

Alex Smiff · 09-03-2013, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Smith has 12 4th qtr comebacks and is Gannons age when Oakland got him.

Had 6 in 2011 alone.

Mark Sanchez had 11 in his first 3 years in the league. Marinate on that for a bit.

Sandy Vagina · 09-03-2013, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The ultimate goal here is to become a playoff team, and trading for Alex Smith is a move that speaks to immediacy with regards to that goal.

Oh, Alex will be ready. The only question is, will the receivers know their roles in every play, audible, and hot route? Will the OL know who to block in various situations?

Alex will know and do his job. It's really up to everyone else, in determining how far KC gets. He is a QB that will need help... not perfection from others... but help. He may not be that dynamic QB that can make shit happen when everything around falls apart. So if the team around him doesn't fall apart and plays their role? KC will do lots of good.

memyselfI · 09-03-2013, 06:36 AM

Well to be fair, Gannon had HOF talent in Oakland. Smith does not have that here. Not to mention the expectations of Gannon to perform well there were slim to none. Basically Gruden was playing a crapshoot. Unlike with Smith who was brought from a Superbowl contending team of which he was a starter.

Apples and oranges.

quittripping · 09-03-2013, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

I'm pretty sure I know who you are on the 9er board. Best of luck.

Go back to your whining fail 49er board and go whine about Alex Smith over there like a dumb fail whining troll hiding in his fail cave. NO ONE CARES.

Oh NM, Alex Smith isn't on your team anymore you got NO PLACE to whine in 49er land now

You MAD the 49er WR CROP STILL FAILS???

You can go WHINE about that now!!!

The 9ers signing SeaC0ck reject Chris Harper to a three-year contract and trading off Cam Johnson really tells you something doesn't it whiner???

THE 49ERS WR CROP FAILS AGAIN. ONE OF THOSE WR ON THE 53 MAN ROSTER WILL BE CUT (IF AND WHEN MANNINGHAM <<< will fail OR CRABTREE <<< might not even come back this season EVEN COMES BACK), COULD BE THAT PROVEN BUST JON BALDWIN (THE BUST THAT YOU GUYS WASTED AJ JENKINS ON), CAUSE THAT'S HOW FAIL THE WR CROP IS, THEY ARE SO DESPERATE TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE TO HELP TAKE PRESSURE OFF BOLDIN THEY ARE PICKING UP REJECTS FROM THE SEADICKS lol rofl lmao

quittripping · 09-03-2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

I'm pretty sure I know who you are on the 9er board. Best of luck.

Oh BTW whiner, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME BACK HERE WEEK IN WEEK OUT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SEASON WHEN THE 9ERS LOSE WITH CAPTAIN KAPERNOOB AND THE CHIEFS WIN WITH GENERAL ALEX SMITH, SO I CAN KEEP LAUGHING AT YOUR FORTY WHINER WHINING FAIL AZZ

!!!

AND TRUST ME, I'LL BE WATCHING BOTH TEAMS, CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SHOW TO BEGIN

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB OH YAY!!!!! CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB OH YAY!!!!! HARB WANTS KAPERNOOOOOOOB TO TAKE OVER, GO AHEAD, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU GOT CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOB COME ON BRING IT WITH THAT STILL FAILED WR CROP, YOU GOING NO WHERE WITH THAT FAIL SH1T LOL!!! LOL IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD TEST FOR YOU KAPERNOOB LOL, ESPECIALLY AFTER FAILING ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE SUPER BOWL

EVERYTIME KAPNOOB FAILS THROWING AN INT OR GET DROPPED TRYING TO RUN THAT QB OPTION NONSENSE THAT EVERYONE AND THEIR GRAND MOM KNOWS BY NOW, I'LL BE CHANTING "CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB OH YAY!!!!!" "CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB OH YAY!!!!!" "CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB OH YAY!!!!!"

!!!

GOT THAT SUNDAY TICKET READY TO GO, GOT THAT FOR FREE TOO

TIME TO WATCH CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB FAIL!!! HE BETTER STEP UP, HE LUCKY HE GOT THAT ROLE NOW, HE GOT ALL THE PUBLICITY HE WANTED, NOW SHOWS US WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT FAIL WR CROP, GO AHEAD CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB!!! SHOW US YOU EARN THAT NEXT BIG CONTRACT! JUST DON'T FAIL CAUSE I'LL BE HERE AND ALL OVER THE NET READY TO MAKE FUN OF HARB AND CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB

!!!

Sorter · 09-03-2013, 07:58 AM

Somebody seems upset.

Ace Gunner · 09-03-2013, 08:02 AM

CYBER-DOUCHE ALERT

quittripping · 09-03-2013, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by quittripping

Oh BTW whiner, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME BACK HERE WEEK IN WEEK OUT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SEASON WHEN THE 9ERS LOSE WITH CAPTAIN KAPERNOOB AND THE CHIEFS WIN WITH GENERAL ALEX SMITH, SO I CAN KEEP LAUGHING AT YOUR FORTY WHINER WHINING FAIL AZZ

!!!

AND TRUST ME, I'LL BE WATCHING BOTH TEAMS, CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SHOW TO BEGIN

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB OH YAY!!!!! CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB OH YAY!!!!! HARB WANTS KAPERNOOOOOOOB TO TAKE OVER, GO AHEAD, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU GOT CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOB COME ON BRING IT WITH THAT STILL FAILED WR CROP, YOU GOING NO WHERE WITH THAT FAIL SH1T LOL!!! LOL IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD TEST FOR YOU KAPERNOOB LOL, ESPECIALLY AFTER FAILING ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE SUPER BOWL

EVERYTIME KAPNOOB FAILS THROWING AN INT OR GET DROPPED TRYING TO RUN THAT QB OPTION NONSENSE THAT EVERYONE AND THEIR GRAND MOM KNOWS BY NOW, I'LL BE CHANTING "CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB OH YAY!!!!!" "CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB OH YAY!!!!!" "CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB OH YAY!!!!!"

!!!

GOT THAT SUNDAY TICKET READY TO GO, GOT THAT FOR FREE TOO

TIME TO WATCH CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB FAIL!!! HE BETTER STEP UP, HE LUCKY HE GOT THAT ROLE NOW, HE GOT ALL THE PUBLICITY HE WANTED, NOW SHOWS US WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT FAIL WR CROP, GO AHEAD CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB!!! SHOW US YOU EARN THAT NEXT BIG CONTRACT! JUST DON'T FAIL CAUSE I'LL BE HERE AND ALL OVER THE NET READY TO MAKE FUN OF HARB AND CAPTAIN KAPERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB

!!!

LOL Kapercrap better win that game this weekend, easy azz game vs the weak azz fartkers

Alex Smith got it easy vs Jags so if KaperNOOB fails I'm laugh SO HARD ALL OVER THE NET.

Go do some more ESPN Naked cover, maybe that will help your fail WR CROP more HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-03-2013, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by quittripping

LOL Kapercrap better win that game this weekend, easy azz game vs the weak azz fartkers

Alex Smith got it easy vs Jags so if KaperNOOB fails I'm laugh SO HARD ALL OVER THE NET.

THAT WILLZ BE TEH AWESOMEST, DUDE!

quittripping · 09-03-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

THAT WILLZ BE TEH AWESOMEST, DUDE!

Lay off the crack yet?

tecumseh · 09-03-2013, 08:35 AM

Well, that's one way to burn down a thread.

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FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1773986	Alex Smith vs. Rich Gannon My view is that Andy Reid has no use for "game manager" QBs. What skills did Rich Gannon have that Alex Smith does not? Rich Gannon passed for about 4500 yards one year a Reid-like offense. Why can't Alex Smith do the same? Not saying he will, but help me understand why it's not going to happen.
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