Chiefs Alex Smith vs. Rich Gannon - Page 16

FringeNC · 08-31-2013, 08:49 PM

My view is that Andy Reid has no use for "game manager" QBs. What skills did Rich Gannon have that Alex Smith does not? Rich Gannon passed for about 4500 yards one year a Reid-like offense. Why can't Alex Smith do the same? Not saying he will, but help me understand why it's not going to happen.

**Mav** · 09-02-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

It's not that serious. Settle down, sport.

Im not the one saying ALEX SMITH FAN BOYS MAKE ME SICK.

So, uh, take your own advice okay?

quittripping · 09-02-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

So, Alex Smith's lack of deep ball passing was due to the 9ers offense and not his own limitations? I've heard it all here.

Smith fanboys make me sick.

Just hope the Chiefs D is spectacular this year. If not, and Smith will have to play catch up. Good luck!

9ers WR crop sucks and STILL SUCKS.

That's all you need to know.

quittripping · 09-02-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Then why even come here? Alex haters have no reason to be here.

You are just a bunch of useless trolls.

Cause they have nothing better to do with their pathetic lives...

It's not hard to understand, especially when Alex Smith has ALREADY "Stick It" to the Alex Smith whiners the past 2 seasons LOL

Get ready to "Stick It" some more now that he is in KC and has the full support of a good coaching staff, a equally talented team, a weak azz division and soon conference (when Manning and Brady retires in the next 2 seasons), while ALEX SMITH is in his prime in regards to age, experience and confidence.

All the Alex Smith whining azz trolls will have to go back to their caves and rot there for the rest of their pathetic lives LOL

quittripping · 09-02-2013, 12:52 PM

Here is some useful info for the whiners to "Stick It" some more

Have fun whiners

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Eleazar · 09-02-2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tainted

At least the 49'rs where smart enough to stick with Kaepenick so that must mean Smith = Grback, Kaepenick = Gannon.

Alex Smith and Elvis Grbac is one of the dumbest comparisons ever.

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I like this.

There's a shock

Alex Smiff · 09-02-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by quittripping

9ers WR crop sucks and STILL SUCKS.

That's all you need to know.

I disagree but oh well. I struck a nerve. Hope things work out for you.

Alex Smiff · 09-02-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by quittripping

Here is some useful info for the whiners to "Stick It" some more

Have fun whiners

:

arrowheadpride.com/2013/9/1/4684932/alex-smith-and-the-run-game-alex-smith-and-the-defense-alex-smith-in

I'm pretty sure I know who you are on the 9er board. Best of luck.

Alex Smiff · 09-02-2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Im not the one saying ALEX SMITH FAN BOYS MAKE ME SICK.

So, uh, take your own advice okay?

9er guy · 09-02-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by quittripping

Cause they have nothing better to do with their pathetic lives...

It's not hard to understand, especially when Alex Smith has ALREADY "Stick It" to the Alex Smith whiners the past 2 seasons LOL

Get ready to "Stick It" some more now that he is in KC and has the full support of a good coaching staff, a equally talented team

C'mon now.....

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-02-2013, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by quittripping

Smoke more crack, maybe you will whine less

Von, is that you?

Jakemall · 09-02-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm not saying it would be a failed trade if he's less than that, only a pointless one. Why bother if he can't be one of the best?

Andy Reid knows offense. Andy Reid knows quarterbacks. Alex Smith is his guy. There's nothing wrong with having high expectations. I know people are accustomed to failure. I know we're used to being kicked while we're down, and then getting pissed on. I know we're used to insane levels of rationalization, trying to justify the value of having Damon Huards and Tyler Thigpens and Matt Cassels and Brady Quinns and Tyler Palkos behind center. I know we're used to expecting little and getting less. I know it's scary to hope for more, because it sucks so much when we're let down.

Time for that to change.

I get what you're saying. What I'm suggesting is that you're setting the bar too high for the price you paid. You're not going to get the next Peyton Manning for 2 2nds. If that's the kind of change you're looking for, may I suggest playing the lottery?

I get you're all tired of mediocrity, but I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment. I think Alex is a very good QB, but Peyton Manning is going to be a HOF player.

Question: If a player makes a team better, but isn't one of the best in the NFL, is a trade a failure? I don't think so...not as long as he brings more to the table than the 2 2nd rounders would have.

keg in kc · 09-02-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

I get what you're saying. What I'm suggesting is that you're setting the bar too high for the price you paid. You're not going to get the next Peyton Manning for 2 2nds. If that's the kind of change you're looking for, may I suggest playing the lottery?

I get you're all tired of mediocrity, but I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment. I think Alex is a very good QB, but Peyton Manning is going to be a HOF player.

Question: If a player makes a team better, but isn't one of the best in the NFL, is a trade a failure? I don't think so...not as long as he brings more to the table than the 2 2nd rounders would have.

I'm setting the bar as high as it *should* be set. When your coaching staff calls the quarterback you traded for, the one the new head coach has been in love with for years, the best in the NFL, when the guy is clearly and obviously being set up as the face of the franchise for the next 5 years, it is not out of proportion to expect him to be one of the top QBs in the league.

I am not saying he has to be Peyton Manning, specifically. I am also not saying he has to be Drew Brees, specifically. I simply listed those two as players who were able to excel immediately with new teams. Which I believe we should expect Alex Smith to do, with the offensive players in place around him.

What I am saying is that for this team to prosper long term, his name needs to be mentioned in the company of players like Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning. He needs to become a part of that group for this trade to be worth it, in my opinion. Top 5-10 at his position. That's not asking too much. That's basically just asking him to be a 2013 version of Trent Green.

Jakemall · 09-02-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm setting the bar as high as it *should* be set. When your coaching staff calls the quarterback you traded for, the one the new head coach has been in love with for years, the best in the NFL, when the guy is clearly and obviously being set up as the face of the franchise for the next 5 years, it is not out of proportion to expect him to be one of the top QBs in the league.

I am not saying he has to be Peyton Manning, specifically. I am also not saying he has to be Drew Brees, specifically. I simply listed those two as players who were able to excel immediately with new teams. Which I believe we should expect Alex Smith to do, with the offensive players in place around him.

What I am saying is that for this team to prosper long term, his name needs to be mentioned in the company of players like Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning. He needs to become a part of that group for this trade to be worth it, in my opinion. Top 5-10 at his position. That's not asking too much. That's basically just asking him to be a 2013 version of Trent Green.

You are aware that Denver was a play-off team the year before Manning got there with Tebow, right? It kinda diminishes his accomplishments there. Also, aside for a play-off appearance when he first arrived, Brees' 2nd and 3rd years with the Saints did not result in a winning season let alone a play-off appearance.

keg in kc · 09-02-2013, 11:51 PM

They both played well for new teams, no matter how you want to try to rationalize it. There's no reason Alex Smith should not perform well here immediately.

beach tribe · 09-02-2013, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Gorilla

Gannon was clutch. 16 fourth quarter comebacks and 20 game winning drives. He was highly underrated.

Smith has 12 4th qtr comebacks and is Gannons age when Oakland got him.

Had 6 in 2011 alone.

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FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1773986	Alex Smith vs. Rich Gannon My view is that Andy Reid has no use for "game manager" QBs. What skills did Rich Gannon have that Alex Smith does not? Rich Gannon passed for about 4500 yards one year a Reid-like offense. Why can't Alex Smith do the same? Not saying he will, but help me understand why it's not going to happen.
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