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Old 02-18-2009, 08:58 PM  
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Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick?
Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career...

Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position.

Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:45 PM   #151
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Every team misses in round 1 from time to time. The problem with the Chiefs hasn't necessarily been blowing it at the very top of the draft.

One of the biggest problems is that they consistently ****ing miss in rounds 2-3.
Yet we'll have the same people who don't want Sanchez or want Curry turn around and express desire for Nate Davis or Rhett Bomar.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:45 PM   #152
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Please do not mention drafting Freeman ever again. Seriously. Let another team jump on that hand-grenade.
I don't want any ****ing part of Freeman.

But if a someone is ok with Davis in round 2, that person's probably a ****ing idiot, and the rationale is most likely QB fear early in the draft.

I have news. Round 2 is ****ing early, too. Not as expensive, but just as important.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:46 PM   #153
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Every team misses in round 1 from time to time. The problem with the Chiefs hasn't necessarily been blowing it at the very top of the draft.

One of the biggest problems is that they consistently ****ing miss in rounds 2-3.
This is very true. I can't honestly think of the last 2nd rounder we picked that panned out.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:46 PM   #154
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Nobody said linebacker isn't an important position. What people are saying is that in a coverage linebacker is not considered a top-10 selection in terms of draft value. And that's not even an opinion; it's a fact based on who's been drafted where over the last decade. Pass rushing linebackers do get drafted that high, to either play weak-side end on a 4-3 or pass-rushing OLB in a 3-4, although if they're undersized even they fall into the second half of the round.

For Curry to go this high, as a coverage linebacker, he'd pretty much have to be a once-in-a-generation kind of player, the exception to the rule.
A coverage linebacker probably isn't worth a top 10 pick. The fact that Curry is top a top 5 player in almost everyone's ranking means that they see him more than just a coverage linebacker.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:46 PM   #155
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I'd consider that an issue if he was a true junior or consistently did dumb shit or was very raw mechanically but he's not.
Seriously, how could anyone have missed it.

We've discussed it over and over.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:47 PM   #156
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This is very true. I can't honestly think of the last 2nd rounder we picked that panned out.
Brandon Flowers...
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Every team misses in round 1 from time to time. The problem with the Chiefs hasn't necessarily been blowing it at the very top of the draft.

One of the biggest problems is that they consistently ****ing miss in rounds 2-3.
I agree. Flowers is the only really successful 2nd rounder we've had in some time.
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Yet we'll have the same people who don't want Sanchez or want Curry turn around and express desire for Nate Davis or Rhett Bomar.
I don't know enough about these players to make an informed, strong argument, but I've seen enough to know that they're much less polished than the top 2 guys. I highly doubt Bomar should even be in the same breath.

That said, if Pioli pulls the trigger on either of these guys in rounds 2-3, it's a big ****ing risk. That's an important draft position where a team really needs to get a productive player.
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What's ironic is that I bet most of the people strongly against taking Sanchez at #3 would be ok with the idea of drafting Davis or Freeman in the 2nd round. As if it's somehow better to take a player that is more of a gamble in round 2.

This franchise isn't in the position it's in now because of only missing on round 1 picks. Rounds 2-3 are just as important, yet somehow this is overlooked.
I think there is some truth in that. I don't know enough about Davis or Freeman to make any judgements on either one. To be honest I am not really excited about the choices we have to choose from at the #3 pick unless Stafford falls to us.
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A coverage linebacker probably isn't worth a top 10 pick. The fact that Curry is top a top 5 player in almost everyone's ranking means that they see him more than just a coverage linebacker.
Why?
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This is very true. I can't honestly think of the last 2nd rounder we picked that panned out.
Look back last year. Good job.
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Seriously, how could anyone have missed it.

We've discussed it over and over.
It doesn't help their argument, or they'll just call us some name like a Sanchezite or something.
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I don't want any ****ing part of Freeman.

But if a someone is ok with Davis in round 2, that person's probably a ****ing idiot, and the rationale is most likely QB fear early in the draft.

I have news. Round 2 is ****ing early, too. Not as expensive, but just as important.
LOL, I agree, and I couldn't put it any better! The other day ESPN was said that Freeman was a poor man's Jafatass Russell like it was a positive. WTF is going through their heads?!
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I love what Pete Prisco said in his mock about the Chiefs:

3. Kansas City Chiefs: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC: New GM comes from New England where he had Tom Brady. New coach Todd Haley comes from Arizona where he had Kurt Warner. Tyler Thigpen isn't the answer.

Sorry, True Fans.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:49 PM   #165
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LOL, I agree, and I couldn't put it any better! The other day ESPN was said that Freeman was a poor man's Jafatass Russell like it was a positive. WTF is going through their heads?!
Russell started to improve late in the season.
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