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Old 02-19-2025, 11:59 AM   #1
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I guess my question is this. Do you think any other coach can do better than what Andy has done in the last 7 years? Do you think he should be replaced?
One of our biggest issues is probably that Andy Reid is such a good coach that he masked a lot of our issues for so long. It was only time before he was unmasked. I imagine most people's sentiment is that this was a good transition point for us to stop bandaiding problems and start addressing them head on.andy is still the best in the business but this will give some extra motivation and fire to get creative and aggressive instead finding ways to make things work.

Veach mahomes and Reid are gonna be on a mission and I don't envy anyone in their path
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Old 02-19-2025, 02:44 PM   #2
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I guess my question is this. Do you think any other coach can do better than what Andy has done in the last 7 years? Do you think he should be replaced?
This is the most pervasive, and annoying ****ing question that comes up any time valid and deserved criticism is leveled at Andy Reid.

Criticism of a ****ing horrible gameplan in the biggest game of his life does not equal FIRE ANDY REID.

We all enjoy and recognize the 7 straight AFCCG games, and 5 Superbowl appearances, but listen up asshole. All that past accomplishment does not absolve Andy of having 2 weeks to prepare, and putting forth quite possibly the absolute WORST ganeplan of his NFL coaching career, and following it up on Superbowl Sunday with ZERO adjustments to personnel, or playcalling.

Can any other coach do better over the last 7 years? Maybe. Andy wasn't really impressing anyone in post season pre Mahomes.

Could any other coach do better on the day of Superbowl LIX,?Im pretty sure a 10 year old Madden player could've done a better job that day, let alone one of the other 30 coaches sitting home and watching Andy put yet another hilariously impressive loss on his resume.


Doesn't mean we want Andy fired. It means we recognize the guy shit his pants in the post season again.

Anybody coming out in defense of what he put together for that game is just a simple blinded Andy fanboy.

You can appreciate what he's done, and still call out a braindead level coaching job.
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Old 02-19-2025, 06:57 PM   #3
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This is the most pervasive, and annoying ****ing question that comes up any time valid and deserved criticism is leveled at Andy Reid.

Criticism of a ****ing horrible gameplan in the biggest game of his life does not equal FIRE ANDY REID.

We all enjoy and recognize the 7 straight AFCCG games, and 5 Superbowl appearances, but listen up asshole. All that past accomplishment does not absolve Andy of having 2 weeks to prepare, and putting forth quite possibly the absolute WORST ganeplan of his NFL coaching career, and following it up on Superbowl Sunday with ZERO adjustments to personnel, or playcalling.

Can any other coach do better over the last 7 years? Maybe. Andy wasn't really impressing anyone in post season pre Mahomes.

Could any other coach do better on the day of Superbowl LIX,?Im pretty sure a 10 year old Madden player could've done a better job that day, let alone one of the other 30 coaches sitting home and watching Andy put yet another hilariously impressive loss on his resume.


Doesn't mean we want Andy fired. It means we recognize the guy shit his pants in the post season again.

Anybody coming out in defense of what he put together for that game is just a simple blinded Andy fanboy.

You can appreciate what he's done, and still call out a braindead level coaching job.
Exactly.

People act like things cannot be mutually exclusive. Andy shit the bed in this Super Bowl by not making adjustments to the lineup and the game plan, it's really that simple. That doesn't take away anything else he's accomplished nor mean we all want him fired.
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Then they took what had been working, flushed it down the shitter, and tried to play like they had Roaf and Waters in there.
No they didn't.

For instance, the first two plays of the game were RPOs. Mahomes didn't hand the ball off when the running lane was there for 5+ yards.

Later on they called a max protect play with a deep shot but Mahomes didn't pull the trigger.

You insist on putting all the blame on the coaching staff when no amount of coaching was going to change the outcome. The Chiefs just ran into a superior team where they couldn't hide their warts enough on a day when the QB also chose to shit his pants.
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Old 02-19-2025, 03:28 PM   #5
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No they didn't.

For instance, the first two plays of the game were RPOs.
Two plays?! Wowie! Neato!

How many were called the rest of the game?
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Two plays?! Wowie! Neato!

How many were called the rest of the game?
You have to get ahold of yourself.

A coaching staff comprised of Andy Reid, Vince Lombardi, Bill Belichick and Tom Landry couldn't have won this game. The Chiefs just didn't have the players.
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Old 02-19-2025, 03:44 PM   #7
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Two plays?! Wowie! Neato!

How many were called the rest of the game?


They tried to run several RPOs. i don't have an exact snapcount or percentage of plays, but they only ran 44 plays to begin with. but I just watched the A-22 a few days ago, and they did run several more RPOs after the first series. the problem was that PHI-D sat on most of those plays, expecting a WR screen or other quick read play.
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Old 02-19-2025, 09:05 AM   #9
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https://x.com/jfowlerespn/status/189...75Ho0jf34TlY6g

This is the sign of a healthy and talented coaching staff. Absolutely nobody has interest in our offensive coaches.
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Old 02-19-2025, 09:11 AM   #10
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Did people forget that Tom Brady and the Patriots were one and done bc they got blown out at home in 2010 by Mark Sanchez and Rex Ryan after going 14-2?

That’s like if we had a season we just had only to get blown out by Bo Nix and Sean Payton at Arrowhead.

And people think that’s not humiliating?
They didn’t get blown out but that definitely is worse than what we just went through. We won 15 games but 13 of those wins came by one score. We clearly had some issues throughout the season.

That Pats team got beat by lil bro from the division.

I think that was actually the Jets’ last playoff win lol

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This is the sign of a healthy and talented coaching staff. Absolutely nobody has interest in our offensive coaches.
I won’t pretend to know the inner workings of the NFL coaching cycle but I’d dock our offensive coaching staff based purely on the fact that we have a HoF coach and QB combo.

It’s like signing a mid WR who played with an elite QB in FA.

Those guys basically never do well in their new environment.
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Old 02-19-2025, 09:16 AM   #11
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This is the sign of a healthy and talented coaching staff. Absolutely nobody has interest in our offensive coaches.
Evaluators saw the true offense in week 17 with Wentz and realized the Chiefs offense is absolute shit w/o Mahomes. Also, NO ONE knows what our OC actually does, every time you go after Nagy for the poor statistical performances of the offense (compared to prior few years) since his arrival a couple years ago people defend Nagy and say that is Reid's fault. I think the one thing EB did at the very limited duties of the OC w/ the Chiefs was bring accountability and a lot more discipline.

Also, EB was a former RB, I wonder if we would have abandoned the run like we did in the SB with him on the sidelines, again just not sure the power the OC has w/ the Chiefs to make decisions.

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Old 02-19-2025, 09:39 AM   #12
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-OL sacks, pressures and hits were highest of Mahomes era this year.
-5 LT’s last 2 years
-26 WR drops last year
-Justin Watson highest snap count in WR room last 2 years
-Least explosive RB room in NFL. Only 17 plays of 10+ yards for RB’s
-Kelce declining, not a consistent every week TE anymore
-Rice, Pacheco and Hollywood out most of the season

Idk what you guys expect any coach to do with this. It’s actually insane we got as far as we did with this big of a talent issue
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Old 02-19-2025, 09:41 AM   #13
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-OL sacks, pressures and hits were highest of Mahomes era this year.
-5 LT’s last 2 years
-26 WR drops last year
-Justin Watson highest snap count in WR room last 2 years
-Least explosive RB room in NFL. Only 17 plays of 10+ yards for RB’s
-Kelce declining, not a consistent every week TE anymore

Idk what you guys expect any coach to do with this. It’s actually insane we got as far as we did with this big of a talent issue
Yep. It finally caught up with them. And it took a perfect storm situation where it was just massive strength against glaring weakness, to make it all come tumbling down. And every other problem became instantly overwhelming.
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-OL sacks, pressures and hits were highest of Mahomes era this year.
1. These increased lower body hits are going to take a toll, if they haven't already.

2. When Mahomes doesn't believe in his protection -- whether justified or not -- he plays at his worst.

3. Outside of Kingsley developing enough for year two or a short-term stopgap in a more fully healed Humphries, I have no idea what the plan it to rectify the situation.
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