What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?

[TLO]

I was in the camp most of the season in saying that these guys are going to get on the same page, and eventually the deep shots will start hitting.

After today, I'm not sure this is the case.

Is this an offensive line issue? Just not enough time for Mahomes to set and fire an accurate deep ball?

Is it an WR issue? We have 1 burner in Worthy, but the rest of our receivers are slow.

Is it a Mahomes issue?

Someone smarter than me tell me what's going on.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by -King-

Based on one play?

At some point this offseason we have to have a real conversation about Mahomes.

What’s going to be the conversation? That he’s off to the best seven year start in league history for a QB by far? That he’s won 2 of the last 3 SBs and made 5 SBs out of the last 6 seasons? That he’s made the AFC Championship 7 years in a row?

You’re right, I do think that kind of unprecedented success should be discussed more often. Can you imagine actually being the franchise lucky enough to have drafted that kind of player?

[Chris Meck]

The answer to the question:

He isn't comfortable with the protection enough to not rush the throw.

/thread

[TEX]

LT. Get him a real one and see what happens...

[Rain Man]

The only problem with Patrick Mahomes II's deep ball is that we're not using it enough.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

The only problem with Patrick Mahomes II's deep ball is that we're not using it enough.

The drops aren't building up anyone's confidence either.

[fadeaway]

Are we still talking about this?

What do we class as a deep ball, 40+ yards?

The quickest WR EVER, gets 40 yards in just over 4 seconds.

Factor in he doesn’t run a straight line and might have a bit of press, let’s say 5 seconds being generous.

How much time does Mahomes get to throw? 2 seconds.

It’s basic math

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by -King-

Based on one play?

At some point this offseason we have to have a real conversation about Mahomes.

His last three, actually.

Perfect 50 yard bomb to Watson against Pittsburgh, a fantastic deep ball to Brown against the Texans that Brown didn’t reel in, and then the longest air yard completion in Super Bowl history and his NFL career at the end of SB59.

We have not seen that level of consistency in Patrick’s deep ball since… 2021? 2020? If there’s any conversation that needs to be had about Patrick, it’s Andy having a real talk with him about him double clutching in the pocket and his hesitancy to take deep shots when they’re there like at the beginning of SB59. If he says he needs an Eric Fisher and it’s a mental thing due to his consistent lower body issues, then you do whatever it takes to land an Eric Fisher this offseason.

It’s not Andy and Nagy preventing him from throwing deep. In fact, they were the ones who were on Pat throughout camp to throw deep and had drilled it into him going into the year. Yes, Andy and Veach deserve criticism for their obvious oversight of the LT position, but this idea that they’re turning him into a game manager has no basis in reality.

Whatever it is, if Patrick hits the three deep balls mentioned above in Weeks 1-3 of next season, defenses will have to radically transform their approach to him from the get-go. Patrick knows this, Andy knows this, and Veach knows this. I believe in the latter to fix LT this offseason, and as always, I believe in Patrick to be the greatest quarterback who’s ever taken the field when we get started next season (and hopefully in a noon game - I could use a few more of those).

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by fadeaway

Are we still talking about this?

What do we class as a deep ball, 40+ yards?

The quickest WR EVER, gets 40 yards in just over 4 seconds.

Factor in he doesn’t run a straight line and might have a bit of press, let’s say 5 seconds being generous.

How much time does Mahomes get to throw? 2 seconds.

It’s basic math

Does the word anticipation mean anything to you?

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

What’s going to be the conversation? That he’s off to the best seven year start in league history for a QB by far? That he’s won 2 of the last 3 SBs and made 5 SBs out of the last 6 seasons? That he’s made the AFC Championship 7 years in a row?

You’re right, I do think that kind of unprecedented success should be discussed more often. Can you imagine actually being the franchise lucky enough to have drafted that kind of player?

He can still improve despite all his accomplishments.

[Regime]

He needs a LT he can trust.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by fadeaway

Are we still talking about this?

What do we class as a deep ball, 40+ yards?

The quickest WR EVER, gets 40 yards in just over 4 seconds.

Factor in he doesn’t run a straight line and might have a bit of press, let’s say 5 seconds being generous.

How much time does Mahomes get to throw? 2 seconds.

It’s basic math

Youre really showing ignorance here. You realize it takes time for the ball to get from QB to WR, right? QBs don't need 5 seconds of protection to throw a deep ball. The ball isn't getting to the WR the instant it's thrown.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Regime

He needs a LT he can trust.

He had adequate LT play for most of the season. If he needs perfection at every position on the OL, then I just don't know what to say. He's shit out of luck.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

He had adequate LT play for most of the season.

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[scho63]

What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?

Hard for him to throw long while you have his ball deep down your throat.