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Old 12-15-2024, 08:06 PM  
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What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?

I was in the camp most of the season in saying that these guys are going to get on the same page, and eventually the deep shots will start hitting.

After today, I'm not sure this is the case.

Is this an offensive line issue? Just not enough time for Mahomes to set and fire an accurate deep ball?

Is it an WR issue? We have 1 burner in Worthy, but the rest of our receivers are slow.

Is it a Mahomes issue?

Someone smarter than me tell me what's going on.
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Old 12-16-2024, 09:47 PM   #196
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mmmm. Not always.
You’re right, sometimes it results in this.

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Old 12-21-2024, 06:26 PM   #197
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You made me watch Hill’s 2022/2023 highlights and search the Dolphins subreddit after this.

He definitely made more over the shoulder catches than I gave him credit for in those highlights. He did lead the league in drops in 2023, and some Dolphins fans claimed he struggled to reel in over the shoulder balls that hit him in the hands. Idk. My eye test says he always preferred to pivot and make more of a basket catch against his body, and I still see that more often than not watching his Phin highlights.
Meanwhile, Dolphins fans on Twitter are starting to turn on Hill en masse after his vaguebook tweeting implying he wants out of South Beach.

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Old 12-21-2024, 06:32 PM   #198
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Some of those reps must be from last season. Per PFR, Hill has only one drop for the season.
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Old 12-21-2024, 06:36 PM   #199
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He missed a few but the passes to Watson and the one to Worthy in the end zone were good deep passes even if they didn't end up completions
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Old 12-21-2024, 06:42 PM   #200
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He missed a few but the passes to Watson and the one to Worthy in the end zone were good deep passes even if they didn't end up completions
Agreed. He looked sharp today. Worthy’s was a difficult catch but Watson showed he simply shouldn’t be trusted with routes like that anymore. He has to bring that in.
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Old 12-25-2024, 09:59 PM   #201
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When Mahomes' two tackles give him a chance to look downfield, turns out his deep ball isn't so bad after all...

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Old 12-25-2024, 10:03 PM   #202
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When Mahomes' two tackles give him a chance to look downfield, turns out his deep ball isn't so bad after all...

YES. God it was great to see that again.
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Old 12-25-2024, 10:06 PM   #203
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Old 12-26-2024, 06:13 AM   #204
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I was in the camp most of the season in saying that these guys are going to get on the same page, and eventually the deep shots will start hitting.



After today, I'm not sure this is the case.



Is this an offensive line issue? Just not enough time for Mahomes to set and fire an accurate deep ball?



Is it an WR issue? We have 1 burner in Worthy, but the rest of our receivers are slow.



Is it a Mahomes issue?



Someone smarter than me tell me what's going on.
The O-line's the issue..
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Old 12-26-2024, 06:56 AM   #205
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His balls went deep very good.
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Old 12-26-2024, 07:11 AM   #206
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OL + Mahomes being able to step up and he also threw it on time and not a second late which probably could be attributed to him feeling confident in his line and keeping his eyes UP, not worried about the rush.

I’m telling you there’s zero chance I’m rocking the boat with the offensive line, IDC how unconventional it is, to do what we’ve done against some of the NFL’s top 5 pass rushing teams…. It’s impressive.
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Old 12-26-2024, 07:32 AM   #207
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OL + Mahomes being able to step up and he also threw it on time and not a second late which probably could be attributed to him feeling confident in his line and keeping his eyes UP, not worried about the rush.

I’m telling you there’s zero chance I’m rocking the boat with the offensive line, IDC how unconventional it is, to do what we’ve done against some of the NFL’s top 5 pass rushing teams…. It’s impressive.
Yep. I think it is fairly obvious now the lack of protection at the tackle position and lack of weapons was the biggest contributing factor.
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Mahomes balls go deep with proper protection
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Well the good news is I’m going to declare it fixed.
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Well the good news is I’m going to declare it fixed.
Based on one play?

At some point this offseason we have to have a real conversation about Mahomes.
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