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Old 10-26-2021, 10:44 PM   #1
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I also don't think we make the playoffs. The pass rush can't be fixed with our roster and it can't be fixed with a trade either. That one thing has been the most damaging. I also don't think every game we will just be killed but with 4 losses already and many tough teams to go it's not happening.
Who are the seven teams that are likely to finish ahead of the Chiefs? There might be 5-6 that have a good chance, but I certainly wouldn’t bet on a 7th.
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Old 10-26-2021, 09:04 PM   #2
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He's not entirely wrong though. Although I think the offensive issues will mostly sort themselves out, there's just too much talent on that side of the ball not to.

But defensively, it's a dumpster fire. It's a monkey ****ing a football INSIDE a dumpster that's on fire.

I don't think there's any fixing that. It looks like Sutton's last defense, it's that hopeless. Only with zero pass rush.

On that side of the ball, the spirit is not willing. Time to gut it and rebuild.
I still have hope they can go on a run. The 2018 defense was also a dumpster fire and they came within an offsides of going to the SB. In a way I think them not making the playoffs is a good thing. Allows for them to cut dead weight and address positions of need with blue chip talent and not the end of every round talent.
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Old 10-26-2021, 10:56 PM   #3
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I still have hope they can go on a run. The 2018 defense was also a dumpster fire and they came within an offsides of going to the SB. In a way I think them not making the playoffs is a good thing. Allows for them to cut dead weight and address positions of need with blue chip talent and not the end of every round talent.
I have a feeling that this is going to light a fire. Everyone in the media and most of the fanbase has done nothing but trash these guys since Sunday. They’ve been repeatedly called a bad football team and told they’re done. If that doesn’t motivate a person, nothing will.
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Old 10-26-2021, 09:11 PM   #4
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He's not entirely wrong though. Although I think the offensive issues will mostly sort themselves out, there's just too much talent on that side of the ball not to.

But defensively, it's a dumpster fire. It's a monkey ****ing a football INSIDE a dumpster that's on fire.

I don't think there's any fixing that. It looks like Sutton's last defense, it's that hopeless. Only with zero pass rush.

On that side of the ball, the spirit is not willing. Time to gut it and rebuild.
Got to imagine that Mahomes being a father now is probably an eye opening for him and that it's totally something new to him. So have to imagine that he has to manage his time between family and football, which he didn't had to do too much of that in prior seasons.

Also on defense, I'm just loss for words there. Chris Jones got paid, so we all know that there are some players who are buyer beware of that when they get paid, they tend to perform less than their contract. We seen this happen before.

I also have to imagine that HB is not happy about being extended, so he's not playing at his "usual" performance because he feels like he has to protect his own interests in hopes of getting a richer deal. If HB gets injured and is lost for the season, he has lost most of his bargaining power in the negotiation table.

As for Clark, I have no idea what's going on with him. Apparently he loves to play with his guns (not that there is anything wrong with that) than his production on the field.

This whole thing is just a shit show.
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Old 10-26-2021, 10:52 PM   #5
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Old 10-27-2021, 12:53 AM   #6
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The problem is always X’s and O’s

Stop trying to dramatize this you bunch of women.

It’s not some crap where the players no longer have heart.

Our left tackle is too slow to block. The defense doesn’t rotate pass rushers or have elite horses like all the good teams do.

Clark and Jones are the only two players that play a position where they may be “giving up” on plays.

But you only give up on a play when you’re already in a bad position due to X’s and O’s.
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Old 10-27-2021, 02:27 AM   #7
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The problem is always X’s and O’s

Stop trying to dramatize this you bunch of women.

It’s not some crap where the players no longer have heart.

Our left tackle is too slow to block. The defense doesn’t rotate pass rushers or have elite horses like all the good teams do.

Clark and Jones are the only two players that play a position where they may be “giving up” on plays.

But you only give up on a play when you’re already in a bad position due to X’s and O’s.
Yep. If our Tackles could pass protect better, especially the LT, and we had a decent DL that could get pressure with 4, then both sides of the ball would be a lot better with everything else as is. Not saying there isn't a need for upgrades in other areas, just saying those are the most glaring weaknesses on the team and if they were fixed, it would stop the bleeding and would help improve play elsewhere.
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Old 10-27-2021, 05:22 AM   #8
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The problem is always X’s and O’s

Stop trying to dramatize this you bunch of women.

It’s not some crap where the players no longer have heart.

Our left tackle is too slow to block. The defense doesn’t rotate pass rushers or have elite horses like all the good teams do.

Clark and Jones are the only two players that play a position where they may be “giving up” on plays.

But you only give up on a play when you’re already in a bad position due to X’s and O’s.
Clark and Jones are being paid $50m this season to rush the passer. The fact that they're completely useless and showing poor effort is a huge reason this defense is terrible.
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Old 10-27-2021, 06:50 AM   #10
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Remember when the NE Patriots went 12-4 in 2013, and then next year came in to Arrowhead and got CRUSHED 41-14?

Good teams get their asses kicked from time to time. It happens. The important thing is what you do next. Gotta thump the shit out of the Giants this week.
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Remember when the NE Patriots went 12-4 in 2013, and then next year came in to Arrowhead and got CRUSHED 41-14?

Good teams get their asses kicked from time to time. It happens. The important thing is what you do next. Gotta thump the shit out of the Giants this week.
I hear ya, but NE had a defense. The Chiefs do not. Yeah, they'll probably beat the shit out of the Giants, but then what? Get their asses kicked by the Packers, Raiders and Cowboys and be 4-7? Because that's where this is heading. Bet NE was not 4-7 that season.
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When the Chiefs are 4-7 just prior to Thanksgiving the playoff chatter will end. Rodgers, Dak, and Carr are gonna light us up. Hell, the Packers and Cowboys might hang 40 on us, maybe more.
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When the Chiefs are 4-7 just prior to Thanksgiving the playoff chatter will end. Rodgers, Dak, and Carr are gonna light us up. Hell, the Packers and Cowboys might hang 40 on us, maybe more.
The Chiefs are going to clean up the Pack - their offense is going downhill fast with these COVID WRs.

Win the shootout with Dallas, beat the Raiders like we always do.

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The Chiefs are going to clean up the Pack - their offense is going downhill fast with these COVID WRs.

Win the shootout with Dallas, beat the Raiders like we always do.

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It's okay, man. Just let go. So much less painful. That 3 year run was so much fun! But that's over now. Get to the offseason and start fixing shit. Next year is another shot at the brass ring! Nobody wins every year.
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It's okay, man. Just let go. So much less painful. That 3 year run was so much fun! But that's over now. Get to the offseason and start fixing shit. Next year is another shot at the brass ring! Nobody wins every year.
We have unfinished business.

We were a fumble away from beating the best team in the AFC.

We're going all the way you sloppy ****.
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