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Old 11-24-2009, 10:27 AM   #1
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depends what level you're talking about. If It's High school It could be both ways....also have to consider whether that HS is out in the suburbs or if it's an inner-city school.
True, and there are TONS of schools who have black QBs. College, and HS.
The best of the best at every position end up in the NFL. Most of the best QBs just happen to be white at this point in time, and the best players, at most other positions are black.
I hope this answer doesn't offend anyone. It's not meant to, and I don't consider myself to be doing anything other than answering a ?? honestly.
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:29 PM   #2
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I believe a more compelling thought was the fact that the NFL is largely African American and the "most important" player on most NFL teams is white.

I have to admit that the kicker thing through me off... Where are all the black kickers?
maybe the league should institute a rule requiring teams to try out black kickers, just to get their numbers up...

addressing the OP, i think it has to do with the physical requirements of the position. i don't think its racist at all to say black people are faster than white people. i think thats pretty much a given. players with more athletic talent are going to play positions that demand more speed and agility. speed is very important to a wr who is running down field, not so much to a guy who is being asked to stand back there and throw a majority of the time. so logic would tell us to put the speed at wr and rb on offense. just my opinion. don't take me for a racist, i'm not. i just call it like i see it.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:02 AM   #3
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Maybe you've never seen the ethnic diversity of the CB position in the NFL.
Maybe that position is dominated by black people because they're better than everyone else at else at it.

Jason Seahorn with the Giants was a very good corner that happened to be white...I can not remember many recently.
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Old 11-24-2009, 07:28 AM   #4
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It may not be a race thing. Most QB's are 6"2" or taller, maybe 220lbs. Growing up, if you learned how to dribble and love basketball more than football wouldn't you lean towards the sport you love better?

I tell you what I've seen in person and thats in baseball. But, its not a black or white thing. It's a middle class, poor thing. Playing little league baseball in the summer at one of the top levels costs $7,000 - $10,000 a summer per team. If your family doesn't have the money, or find a team with a sponsor, your kid plays recreational baseball.
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Old 11-24-2009, 07:31 AM   #5
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I tell you what I've seen in person and thats in baseball. But, its not a black or white thing. It's a middle class, poor thing. Playing little league baseball in the summer at one of the top levels costs $7,000 - $10,000 a summer per team. If your family doesn't have the money, or find a team with a sponsor, your kid plays recreational baseball.
Working at a high school, I see this all the time. Our entire baseball team, except for a few notable exceptions (naturally gifted athletes) consists of kids from traveling squads who have affluent families that can shell out the bucks for them to be on a traveling squad. No one else even tries out for the team once they get to the high school level. We've also won like 5 state championships in a row.
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Old 11-24-2009, 07:35 AM   #6
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Working at a high school, I see this all the time. Our entire baseball team, except for a few notable exceptions (naturally gifted athletes) consists of kids from traveling squads who have affluent families that can shell out the bucks for them to be on a traveling squad. No one else even tries out for the team once they get to the high school level. We've also won like 5 state championships in a row.
Yeah, I tried fighting against it, by not traveling for tournaments farther than we could drive in a half a day, got sponsors to help keep done the costs. Preached learning fundamentals and sportsmanship. If a parent didn't have the money to pay their share of the team funds, I payed it. But, in doing those things I was never able to atract the best talent in KC because we didn't travel to Texas, Florida etc for tournaments. And we would be a top 5 ranked team in the state almost every year. To use a college analogy....I could get the 3-4 star recruits but not the 5 star ones.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:25 AM   #7
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I tell you what I've seen in person and thats in baseball. But, its not a black or white thing. It's a middle class, poor thing. Playing little league baseball in the summer at one of the top levels costs $7,000 - $10,000 a summer per team. If your family doesn't have the money, or find a team with a sponsor, your kid plays recreational baseball.
I agree with BRC.

I think money has a large role in today's youth sports. Lots of parents will spend thousands a year on one-on-one trainers and camps and clinics. Child X has his own personal trainer for 2 years and Y doesn't. Even if Y has a good arm, child X has more experience and reps even in the 4th and 5th grade and will get the nod. It's kind of sad.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:44 AM   #8
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I agree with BRC.

I think money has a large role in today's youth sports. Lots of parents will spend thousands a year on one-on-one trainers and camps and clinics. Child X has his own personal trainer for 2 years and Y doesn't. Even if Y has a good arm, child X has more experience and reps even in the 4th and 5th grade and will get the nod. It's kind of sad.
Also, around here at least, high schools are going to more and more complex spread type offenses. QBs are often groomed from about 7th grade in a system to get them ready for high school. The kid who gets the summer camps (around here, often run by the high school) is going to have an advantage on understanding and running the offense over kids who don't.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:47 AM   #9
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Old 11-24-2009, 07:38 AM   #10
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You'll probably need to wait until Mic comes here to explain it.

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Old 11-24-2009, 08:55 AM   #11
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You'll probably need to wait until Mic comes here to explain it.

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Are there more black QB's than white RB's?
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:17 AM   #13
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Are there more black QB's than white RB's?
You are not getting me! I'm looking for the converse. The NFL is mostly black, so it is not surprising that there are more black players at any given position... EXCEPT QB. Jeez, wish you guys would read before you post sometimes.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:18 AM   #14
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You are not getting me! I'm looking for the converse. The NFL is mostly black, so it is not surprising that there are more black players at any given position... EXCEPT QB. Jeez, wish you guys would read before you post sometimes.
I'm just messin around with my other posts.
I honestly think it's because White athlete's will not make it at most positions so they focus harder on the QB position, and are tried out there more, because that's the only place they would be able to play, and black people are more often put at the other skill positions because they can fill those roles.
I also think that white kids whose parents want them to be a QB groom them to be so very early in their lives.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:13 AM   #15
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Yes.
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