White is Right?

[MikeMaslowski]

I have thought about this topic often and see the discussions come and go. Why are an overwhelming majority of NFL QB's white? There is no other sport that I can think of where a single position is dominated by a certain race. I understand that individual sports are saturated with certain races but I think QB in the NFL is unique. You don't see Asians overpopulating the pitchers mound in the MLB or Hispanics holding down the power forward position in the NBA, so why Caucasians and the QB position?

Is it ideological, i.e. "Owners want white QB's to rep the franchise, White QB's usually come from a rich neighborhood and had a better opportunity to learn how to lead" etc.

or

Biological? "White guys have an extra tendon in their throwing arm, Black players are naturally faster so they run more than throw which leaves them at a disadvantage" or some crazy stuff like that.

What do you think?

Have another beer on me!

Maz

[Bane]

I'd rep you just for the guts it took to start this thread,but I'm on my mobile....I'd never be able to explain my opinion on the matter without being flamed and labeled a racist,so I will simply say that its the only position left for slow white guys that can throw a ball.
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[InChiefsHeaven]

I'd be inclined to say that, right now anyway, more white guys fit the bill than black guys. But I don't think it has anything to do with race. Maybe it's a preference from when they were kids. The Black guys wanted to be running backs and recievers, and the white guys wanted to be quarterbacks...

...hell I don't know. But it's obvious that race can't play a role on the talent side per se. Warren Moon was a darn good QB, for instance.

Here's the bigger question...

...when's the last time you EVER saw a black kicker? Roby? I think that's the only one in the history of the world...

...'sup with THAT??

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski

There is no other sport that I can think of where a single position is dominated by a certain race.


Maz

Maybe you've never seen the ethnic diversity of the CB position in the NFL.
Maybe that position is dominated by black people because they're better than everyone else at else at it.

[BigRedChief]

It may not be a race thing. Most QB's are 6"2" or taller, maybe 220lbs. Growing up, if you learned how to dribble and love basketball more than football wouldn't you lean towards the sport you love better?

I tell you what I've seen in person and thats in baseball. But, its not a black or white thing. It's a middle class, poor thing. Playing little league baseball in the summer at one of the top levels costs $7,000 - $10,000 a summer per team. If your family doesn't have the money, or find a team with a sponsor, your kid plays recreational baseball.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I tell you what I've seen in person and thats in baseball. But, its not a black or white thing. It's a middle class, poor thing. Playing little league baseball in the summer at one of the top levels costs $7,000 - $10,000 a summer per team. If your family doesn't have the money, or find a team with a sponsor, your kid plays recreational baseball.

Working at a high school, I see this all the time. Our entire baseball team, except for a few notable exceptions (naturally gifted athletes) consists of kids from traveling squads who have affluent families that can shell out the bucks for them to be on a traveling squad. No one else even tries out for the team once they get to the high school level. We've also won like 5 state championships in a row.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by NewPhin

Working at a high school, I see this all the time. Our entire baseball team, except for a few notable exceptions (naturally gifted athletes) consists of kids from traveling squads who have affluent families that can shell out the bucks for them to be on a traveling squad. No one else even tries out for the team once they get to the high school level. We've also won like 5 state championships in a row.

Yeah, I tried fighting against it, by not traveling for tournaments farther than we could drive in a half a day, got sponsors to help keep done the costs. Preached learning fundamentals and sportsmanship. If a parent didn't have the money to pay their share of the team funds, I payed it. But, in doing those things I was never able to atract the best talent in KC because we didn't travel to Texas, Florida etc for tournaments. And we would be a top 5 ranked team in the state almost every year. To use a college analogy....I could get the 3-4 star recruits but not the 5 star ones.

[Inspector]

You'll probably need to wait until Mic comes here to explain it.

That's what I'm going to do.

[MikeMaslowski]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Maybe you've never seen the ethnic diversity of the CB position in the NFL.
Maybe that position is dominated by black people because they're better than everyone else at else at it.

Why?


I believe a more compelling thought was the fact that the NFL is largely African American and the "most important" player on most NFL teams is white.

I have to admit that the kicker thing through me off... Where are all the black kickers?

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski

Why?


I believe a more compelling thought was the fact that the NFL is largely African American and the "most important" player on most NFL teams is white.

I have to admit that the kicker thing through me off... Where are all the black kickers?

Kicking is a position of affluence that involves lots and lots of time at kicking camps. A better question is where are all the Hispanic kickers. There was a bit of hype for a while that we were going to start getting lots of hispanic crossovers from soccer to football, but it hasn't really played out. The Razorbacks do have a hispanic kicker (Alex Tejada), but it's still not that common.

[chief52]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Maybe you've never seen the ethnic diversity of the CB position in the NFL.
Maybe that position is dominated by black people because they're better than everyone else at else at it.

Jason Seahorn with the Giants was a very good corner that happened to be white...I can not remember many recently.

[Nixhex]

Are there more black QB's than white RB's?

[Deberg_1990]

Where are all the black hockey players?

[MikeMaslowski]

Originally Posted by Nixhex

Are there more black QB's than white RB's?

You are not getting me! I'm looking for the converse. The NFL is mostly black, so it is not surprising that there are more black players at any given position... EXCEPT QB. Jeez, wish you guys would read before you post sometimes.

[Bane]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Where are all the black hockey players?

Right!!!!Everyone knows you can't put spinners on ice skates.
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