Haley thinks Cassel's problem was the players around him

[dj56dt58]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

So once we surround Cassel with all Pros, people will feel better about him?

Brilliant....

Yeah because it takes all pros to hang onto the ****ing ball

[milkman]

Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Yeah because it takes all pros to hang onto the ****ing ball

No it doesn't take all pros.

However, when you have receivers with a reputatuion already established for drops, and you team them with a QB who makes poor throws, you're going to see a shit load of drops.

[KurtCobain]

We should just give him twenty points at the beginning of every game for being so ****ing badass.

[CoMoChief]

Cassel sucks.

Start Croyle.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Cassel sucks.

Start Croyle.

Croyle is 0-9

Start Cassel(for this year anyway)
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[milkman]

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Croyle is 0-9


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If anyone has an excuse that says it's the players around him, that would be Croyle.

However, he's the football equivalent of Humpty Dumpty, so starting him would only mean we'd see Cassel starting later rather than the start of the season.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by milkman

If anyone has an excuse that says it's the players around him, that would be Croyle.

However, he's the football equivalent of Humpty Dumpty, so starting him would only mean we'd see Cassel starting later rather than the start of the season.

Yep I agree.
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[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by milkman

If anyone has an excuse that says it's the players around him, that would be Croyle.

However, he's the football equivalent of Humpty Dumpty, so starting him would only mean we'd see Cassel starting later rather than the start of the season.

arent they the same players?

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

arent they the same players?

Given the fact we upgraded the Oline this year, Croyle IMO shouldn't be running for his life like in past seasons. If he were to have any time whatsoever to throw the ball, my guess is that this team would be better overall w/ him behind center. W/ Weis as OC, Croyle IMO would have the right tools and people around him to be successful.

The only reason why Croyle ISN'T the starter is because he's made of glass and had some serious bad luck w/ injuries. Because of that, and Pioli, we are stuck w/ CASSHole at QB.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by milkman

If anyone has an excuse that says it's the players around him, that would be Croyle.

However, he's the football equivalent of Humpty Dumpty, so starting him would only mean we'd see Cassel starting later rather than the start of the season.

I agree with you about Croyle, but it still makes me wonder how Damon Huard was able to win 5 games in those two years that Croyle was a "starter"

[milkman]

Originally Posted by SNR

I agree with you about Croyle, but it still makes me wonder how Damon Huard was able to win 5 games in those two years that Croyle was a "starter"

Confidence and experience.

Watching Croyle, he has the physical tools to succeed, but he plays tentatively, which I believe Herman ****ing Edwards and Dick Curl are in large part, responsible for.

Huard had nothing to lose.

He was a career backup with little talent, so he put it all out there when he was on the field and had the time in the pocket to make reads and throws.

Croyle showed what he is capable of in the preseason, but as soon as the regular season rolled around, he showed a total lack of confidence in his ability.

But again, it's all moot.

The first time a defender blows some air his way, he'll get something broken.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by SNR

I agree with you about Croyle, but it still makes me wonder how Damon Huard was able to win 5 games in those two years that Croyle was a "starter"

The Chiefs "could" have legitimately won 5 of the 9 games Croyle started. Four of them in 2007, and the Ravens game last year. Here are the 2007 games he started that could have been won...

2007 season. Croyle starts 6 of last 7 games.

Game 1 is at Indianapolis. Bad news right? Late 3rd, Croyle leads us on 11 play 77 yd drive that ends with 19 yd TD pass to Bowe to tie the score at 10. Then, with about eleven minutes left in the game we get the ball back at own 25, still tied at 10. Croyle hits Gonzo for 7 and Bowe for 14 and we are first and 10 at 45 with nine minutes left. OC (Solari?) goes conservative again, and we punt the ball to Manning with seven minutes left. Manning runs out clock and Colts kick late FG to win 13-10.

Game 2 is Oakland at home. Late 3rd Croyle leads us on 9 play 63 yard drive that ends in TD and a 17-13 lead. Defense forces 3-and-Out. Next drive Croyle takes us 47 yards on 9 more plays to Oakland 15. Rayner misses short FG. Rested defense gives up 3 play 77 yard TD drive. Croyle follows up with 12 play 52 yard drive to Oakland 23. Went for it on 4th and 1 as opposed to FG to tie with 4:22 to go in game. Didn't make it on Smith run. Oakland runs out clock.

Game 3 did not play vs Sandy Eggo

Game 4 got hammered 41-7 at Dennver

Game 5 vs Tennessee lead 14-13 in 3rd. Croyle leads us on 14 play drive that lasts 7:20 seconds and ends in FG for 17-13 lead. Well rested defense gives up 3 play 60 yard TD drive... Ballgame.

Game 6 at Detroit. Down 19-0 early. Played bad. Huard replaces Croyle.

Game 7 at Jets. Ugly game. Down 10-3 middle of 4th quarter. Croyle leads us on 9 play 83 yard drive that ends with 26 yard TD pass to tie game at 10 with 3:07 to go. Get ball back with little over a minute to go, but it was inside our own 20. Game goes to OT. Jets win toss. 11 plays later Jets kick FG to win 13-10.



Now whoever is QB doesn't really matter to me. But I hope one of these two is good, because if not we are still several years more away from being a contender. And God knows, I am definately ready for the Cheifs to be at the top of the food chain instead of at the bottom.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by milkman

If anyone has an excuse that says it's the players around him, that would be Croyle.

However, he's the football equivalent of Humpty Dumpty, so starting him would only mean we'd see Cassel starting later rather than the start of the season.

humpty dumpty

[Shaid]

Originally Posted by milkman

If anyone has an excuse that says it's the players around him, that would be Croyle.

Didn't Croyle and Cassel both have pretty much the same players? Actually, Croyle had Tony G so.....

[Rasputin]

I don't care what any body or expert says, it shouldn't take 16 games to drive a td in the first quart of a game for the season. 15 games with out an offensive TD that's like going 3.75 games with out scoring a TD. If we went a streatch of 3- 4 games with out scoreing an offensive TD heads would roll and fans would lose there freaking minds.

It's the starting QBs job to get the O on a roll and start scoreing not buy himself but get the ball where in needs to go and on time delivery.

I'm tired getting a back up vet QB comming here to be starter and suck ass then have all the excuses so they don't lose there job. Huard Cassle no differance. Excuses excuses excuses. just quit. Croyle didn't get the excuses like that and he got his ass kicked by the Titans because nobody would block. I watch how they play and Cassel has very poor delivery he is has slow motion reaction to blitz, i don't see much that he can improve at this stage of his career. What ever, can't wait for this to get started hopefully Cassel proves me wrong OR let Croyle do it.