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Old 06-19-2010, 07:58 AM   #1
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So once we surround Cassel with all Pros, people will feel better about him?

Brilliant....
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Old 06-19-2010, 09:46 AM   #2
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So once we surround Cassel with all Pros, people will feel better about him?

Brilliant....
Hasn't that been the general consensus anyway? Surround him with 8 pro bowlers and he'll be a good QB....
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:53 AM   #3
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Hasn't that been the general consensus anyway? Surround him with 8 pro bowlers and he'll be a good QB....
Yes, it's the necessary key to insure a hard-fought loss in rounds 1 or 2.

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Old 06-19-2010, 11:58 AM   #4
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Yes, it's the necessary key to insure a hard-fought loss in rounds 1 or 2.

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Old 06-19-2010, 11:08 AM   #5
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So once we surround Cassel with all Pros, people will feel better about him?

Brilliant....
Ignoring the QB play for a minute, how many of those offensive players were playing at even a decent NFL level for the first half of the season while Cassel was running for his life?
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:09 AM   #6
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Ignoring the QB play for a minute, how many of those offensive players were playing at even a decent NFL level for the first half of the season while Cassel was running for his life?
How many of them were throwing 4 TD against 10 INT down the stretch in the season's second half while the players around them improved?
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:12 AM   #7
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How many of them were throwing 4 TD against 10 INT down the stretch in the season's second half while the players around them improved?
That's irrelevant to my question. Ignoring the QB, how many offensive players were playing at even a decent NFL level in the first half of the year?
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:15 AM   #8
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That's irrelevant to my question. Ignoring the QB, how many offensive players were playing at even a decent NFL level in the first half of the year?
The fact that he didn't improve, and in fact got worse as the play around him did improve, is irrelevant?

Yeah, okay, dumbass.
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:16 AM   #9
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The fact that he didn't improve, and in fact got worse as the play around him did improve, is irrelevant?

Yeah, okay, dumbass.
Given that my question was about the first half of the season, yes it is irrelevant.
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:20 AM   #10
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Given that my question was about the first half of the season, yes it is irrelevant.
Yeah, because you can not simply cherry pick how you want to evaluate his play.

He sucked in the first half of the season.

He sucked in the second half, and the play around him in the first half doesn't give him a pass.
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Old 06-19-2010, 12:05 PM   #11
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That's irrelevant to my question. Ignoring the QB, how many offensive players were playing at even a decent NFL level in the first half of the year?
It's completely relevant.

Your point is destroyed because he played just as bad, if not worse, when the talent around him improved.
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Old 06-19-2010, 12:10 PM   #12
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It's completely relevant.

Your point is destroyed because he played just as bad, if not worse, when the talent around him improved.
Given that you had no idea what my point was going to be, claiming that it was destroyed makes no sense at all.
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Old 06-19-2010, 12:14 PM   #13
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Given that you had no idea what my point was going to be, claiming that it was destroyed makes no sense at all.
Your point was very clearly that we can't judge Cassel too harshly because he was surrounded by dogshit in the first half of the season.

But your point is bullshit, because he continued to play at the same level, if not worse, when the talent around him improved.

Occam's razor states he just sucks.
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Old 06-20-2010, 07:35 AM   #14
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So once we surround Cassel with all Pros, people will feel better about him?

Brilliant....
Yeah because it takes all pros to hang onto the ****ing ball
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Yeah because it takes all pros to hang onto the ****ing ball
No it doesn't take all pros.

However, when you have receivers with a reputatuion already established for drops, and you team them with a QB who makes poor throws, you're going to see a shit load of drops.
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