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Old 11-23-2011, 01:15 PM  
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Are there any players you think Haley handled wrong
I would like to stick to just players

I can only think of 3, people might have a problem with

1) Starting Thomas Jones over Jamaal Charles. Charles didn't seem to care

2) Benard Pollard. He couldn't choose a player over a coordinator(even Pendergast)

3)Chris Chambers. He set him & started less talented WRs. I don't even think Chambers is in the league anymore
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:30 PM   #16
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:31 PM   #17
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Waters sucked last season. He didn't want to be here.
Got out to save his ACL. Smart move.
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:31 PM   #18
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Waters sucked last season. He didn't want to be here.
Waters didn't suck last yr.
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:31 PM   #19
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:34 PM   #20
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:37 PM   #21
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:38 PM   #22
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We could really use Shaun Smith right about now, and we had plenty of cap room. The dude wanted to be here, too. Letting him walk was ****ing dumb. I know that's on Pioli, but it's also on Haley to tell Scott what he needs. This team definitely needed Smith.

I'm good with letting Waters go. People don't realize that he'd be sucking a bowl of shit right now if he still played for us. He's back to being on a great offense in New England... is it any wonder that he's playing well for them?

LJ/Charles was pretty bad

Palko over Stanzi was dumb. I realize he was given Cassel and can't do anything about him

It's tough to gauge which players suck because they're bad players and which players suck because of Haley. In terms of personnel choices, though, Haley's got his mix of good and bad decisions.

Again, I think we're talking about his strongest suit as a head coach- getting the most out of his guys. This isn't why I want him fired.
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:46 PM   #23
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I'm good with letting Waters go. People don't realize that he'd be sucking a bowl of shit right now if he still played for us. He's back to being on a great offense in New England... is it any wonder that he's playing well for them?
I was fine when we let him walk and I'm not too broken up about it now. That said, the question was did he handle him correctly. He was obviously made to feel unwelcome when the new regime arrived. You can argue that was on him, but who knows. I think feeling appreciated in NE made a big difference with him.
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:47 PM   #24
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The entire 2009 draft
Waters opened the door for Asamoah to start. That was a good long-term decision. And Waters is only playing better because he has a QB that finally makes him look better.

Smith and the 2009 draft were hardly on Haley, nor was drafting DMC.

Brown, Pope, and O'Connell... it's not like they have better options on the roster.
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:49 PM   #25
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We could really use Shaun Smith right about now, and we had plenty of cap room. The dude wanted to be here, too. Letting him walk was ****ing dumb. I know that's on Pioli, but it's also on Haley to tell Scott what he needs. This team definitely needed Smith.

I'm good with letting Waters go. People don't realize that he'd be sucking a bowl of shit right now if he still played for us. He's back to being on a great offense in New England... is it any wonder that he's playing well for them?

LJ/Charles was pretty bad

Palko over Stanzi was dumb. I realize he was given Cassel and can't do anything about him

It's tough to gauge which players suck because they're bad players and which players suck because of Haley. In terms of personnel choices, though, Haley's got his mix of good and bad decisions.

Again, I think we're talking about his strongest suit as a head coach- getting the most out of his guys. This isn't why I want him fired.
I think from a personnel side, he's made a lot more good than bad decisions.

On Shaun Smith, like most decisions, I don't think Pioli gives a shit what Haley thinks. And that's exactly the problem.

On Palko... I wonder if Haley would start Stanzi if he knew his job was safe. I feel like they may be starting Palko because he feels the pressure to win now.
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:50 PM   #26
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Smith and the 2009 draft were hardly on Haley, nor was drafting DMC.
And you know this how?

FYI, coaches have input on THEIR team.
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:54 PM   #27
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I think from a personnel side, he's made a lot more good than bad decisions.

On Shaun Smith, like most decisions, I don't think Pioli gives a shit what Haley thinks. And that's exactly the problem.

On Palko... I wonder if Haley would start Stanzi if he knew his job was safe. I feel like they may be starting Palko because he feels the pressure to win now.
So Haley is a victim?
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:11 PM   #28
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So Haley is a victim?
Im not a fly on the wall. But I'm sure Haley didn't beg pioli for less players to work with. I'm sure he didn't beg pioli to load his roster with ex patriots. And given his familiarity with variations of the 3-4 I'm sure he didn't insist on the 2 gap 3-4. The instant Tyson Jackson was drafted it was clear who was dictating the system. The instant Weiss and crennel were hired we should have seen that pioli doesn't have flexibility to move beyond his system.

So yes, I think Haley is the victim of an egomaniac who only knows one way to build a team.
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:12 PM   #29
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And you know this how?

FYI, coaches have input on THEIR team.
Probably on mccluster. I find it hard to believe Smith wasn't a money decision.
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