I think Clark fired Haley here's why!

[OzarksChiefsFan]

I think Clark Hunt fired Haley. I think the game Sunday was the final straw. When you talk the talk like Clark did about building a winner blowout losses are not acceptable. I think Pioli got him to wait till Monday morning but I

don't think he could change his mind. Pioli may have been served notice to shape up as well. If you watched the body language in the Press conference Clark was exuding confidence and Pioli seemed a little shaken.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

When you talk the talk like Clark does, you sit on $30M of cap space and blame your HC for the team's failures.

I hear ya, and that number is well documented. I am curious though.

How do you go young, and build through the draft, without being under the cap?

Considering the lockout crap, and the general time table involved, what free agents would you have picked up? Where would you spend the 30 million?

I know it was two years in a row, but do you think it is being a tight wad or committed to the youth movement?

[58-4ever]

Scott, is that you? I had no idea that you summered in the Ozarks...

[Dexter Manley]

The Eagles spent under $6 mil per year hiring Jason Babin this offseason...

Good thing Piolio let him walk for nuttin...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Bobbie

Josh McD - he'd rather have Cassel than Cutler!!!

PATS RULE BABY!!!!!!!!!!!

I know everybody hates this guy...

But he's RIGHT.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I hear ya, and that number is well documented. I am curious though.

How do you go young, and build through the draft, without being under the cap?

Considering the lockout crap, and the general time table involved, what free agents would you have picked up? Where would you spend the 30 million?

I know it was two years in a row, but do you think it is being a tight wad or committed to the youth movement?

Where is Brandon Carr's new contract? How about Dwayne Bowe?

They weren't very active in free agency at all.

And the youth movement thing is bullshit when you sign a 28-year old QB who didn't even play in college.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by OzarksChiefsFan

I think Clark Hunt fired Haley. I think the game Sunday was the final straw. When you talk the talk like Clark did about building a winner blowout losses are not acceptable. I think Pioli got him to wait till Monday morning but I

don't think he could change his mind. Pioli may have been served notice to shape up as well. If you watched the body language in the Press conference Clark was exuding confidence and Pioli seemed a little shaken.

Pioli always looks uncomfortable at press conferences.

[The Iron Chief]

Originally Posted by OzarksChiefsFan

If you watched the body language in the Press conference Clark was exuding confidence and Pioli seemed a little shaken.

No no no you read this wrong.
Pioli was shaken because hes not used to sitting in a chair without a chilli dog in his hand and a plate of nachos in front of him.
He was Not upset over Haley getting fired no way no how.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Bobbie

Now, consider never going 3-4, and keeping Babin and Hali at DE....

Will you shut up about Jason Babin already?

He has said a bunch of times that he wanted to go to a team that runs a scheme that he excelled at in college and that's what he did.

If we were still a 4-3 team that used its ends as pass rushers first, he would still be here.

[Predarat]

Fire Polly too!

[Dexter Manley]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Will you shut up about Jason Babin already?

He has said a bunch of times that he wanted to go to a team that runs a scheme that he excelled at in college and that's what he did.

If we were still a 4-3 team that used its ends as pass rushers first, he would still be here.

LOL!!!

Scott Pioli is accountable for his "opportunity cost." The "cost" of switching to the 3-4 with Tyson Jackson etc. was huge. And the 3-4 still has a pass rush of Hali and, well, maybe Houston in the future, but before a few games ago, it was Hali and just Hali for Pioli's whole tenure here, and Pioli didn't even land Hali...

Babin's quote is this year, or last year, and yes he is just a 4-3 DE, but he was flashing here right before Pioli was signed, and Pioli sat on his "PATS RULE" chair and never questioned whether or not the GIVEN TALENT ON HIS ROSTER was better suited for 4-3. It was. All he had to do was keep Jason Babin from walking in UFA for minimum...

Sorry, that's on Pioli's record, and tossing cards and whining doesn't change that.

JASON BABIN = PIOLI's FIRST HUGE ERROR HERE

[Dexter Manley]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I know everybody hates this guy...

But he's RIGHT.

Well, not "everybody..."

just MOST EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!

[Agent V]

Originally Posted by Bobbie

Well, not "everybody..."

just MOST EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!

You know using extraneous capital letters and fifty exclamation points makes it look like you're ****ing reeruned, right?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by chief103182

You know using extraneous capital letters and fifty exclamation points makes it look like you're ****ing reeruned, right?

NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!! I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!!!!!111111!!!1111!!!!!!ELEVENTY!!!!

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by Slainte

I thought it was a lovely story and you tell it so well. And with such enthusiasm.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Munson

Hunt should've also fired Pioli for wasting the entire '09 draft, and failing to bring in any big time players via free agency.

The big time via free agency rout isn't the way to go imo. They tend to last average 2 years and we have to start over again anyways. How are the Eagles doing this year? How are the Packers doing this year? It's not that hard to figure out that for long term success building a team through the draft is the best way to go. Just need to start with getting the QB from the draft in the first place in order for it to work.

Chiefs fans arn't patient now because such a long drout from winning any thing big. We have to learn how to be patient with a young team and QB that has the potential to be something greater than the best teams out there. They need to play potential and stick to the guns and conviction in this to work. The wins will come as the team grows together and learns how to be a team that relies on each other keeping each accountable on and off the field. Consistancy & familiarity are key components in all this.


I was against bringing in Cassel or any other retread QB to boot. I have always believed in drafting a QBotf and letting him play his rookie year, to hell with sitting him on the bench for his first year. I didn't want Joe Montana at the time we traded for him. I have stuck with this team just to see a QB draft pick grow and develop into something special for long term success that is fun to watch. Not the two year window retread but for a 10+ year window of championships opportunity. That has been my conviction all these years.