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Old 09-04-2012, 01:36 PM   #1
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the bet with Tattoo was ridiculous, and doesn't count and you know it..


And predicting that a #4 WR will catch 40 balls in a run-first offense isn't ridiculous?

Shit, you think he might grab 50.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:05 PM   #2
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I didn't puss out.

I don't want to see you removed from the forum for any length of time.

You're too much fun.

You are Batman and I am the Joker.

Some men...just want to watch Chiefsplanet burn.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:20 PM   #3
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I didn't puss out.

I don't want to see you removed from the forum for any length of time.

You're too much fun.

You are Batman and I am the Joker.

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good one
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:31 PM   #4
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My gut feeling says Atlanta is going to blow the Chiefs out.

This coulda been a great game if half our defense wasn't sitting out.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:37 PM   #5
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Don't, under any circumstance, try comebacks, curls, or out-routes at Samuels or Grimes.


That's all our QB can do. That and hit 2-yard drag patterns and slants.

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The starting CB trio of Asante, Robinson, and Grimes gave up a total of 111 yards, 0 TDs, and 2 INTs on Post and Corner routes last year, so might consider abandoning that option.
We abandon that option against every defense.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:43 PM   #6
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yea those CBs are going to jump at every piece of crap stationary route pass Cassel throws

definitely at least 2 picks for Cassel and probably a fumble for giggles as well. He will let some turd sack him because he will get rattled once he throws his first pick. Then he will go to the bench and do something stupid out of frustration like not put a ****ing hat on correctly without looking like an idiot. And thus our season in a nutshell is the Snowballing Cassel Gameday Approach
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:45 PM   #7
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yea those CBs are going to jump at every piece of crap stationary route pass Cassel throws

definitely at least 2 picks for Cassel and probably a fumble for giggles as well. He will let some turd sack him because he will get rattled once he throws his first pick. Then he will go to the bench and do something stupid out of frustration like not put a ****ing hat on correctly without looking like an idiot. And thus our season in a nutshell is the Snowballing Cassel Gameday Approach


This would be a perfect game.

Especially if Dexter catches about 7 balls for 36 yards, and we score 13 points.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:49 PM   #8
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You actually want us to lose?


I get being pessimistic but why be a fan at all
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:57 PM   #9
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At this point in time, the nfl is all about the qb. You can't sit around and wait for one, gotta be proactive


So there wasn't a guy available when we picked, there were guys available via trading picks etc
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:08 PM   #10
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At this point in time, the nfl is all about the qb. You can't sit around and wait for one, gotta be proactive


So there wasn't a guy available when we picked, there were guys available via trading picks etc
Exactly this.

I'm sick of the excuses:

"QB X, Y and Z weren't available."

"This place would have gone nuts had we "reached" on QB A, B or C."

"QB D, E and F are shitty with their current teams, therefore they would have been shitty here."

"The QB class of [insert year here] is better anyway, I guarantee Pioli will take one then."

It's all bullshit.

RGIII supposedly wasn't available to the Redskins.

Who gives a shit if people here shit bricks if we "reach" for a QB? If he pans out, no one will be bitching. If he doesn't, we try again. I'd rather try and fail 10 times with QB's than take even one Tyson Jackson.

No one has any clue how other QB's would have played here, or for that matter, how the rest of their career will turn out. Some of you have declared young QB's busts after one poor season - even if it was preceded by a phenomenal one.

Enough with the bullshit excuses. Grow a pair, and take a QB in R1.

And if you fail, do it again until you succeed.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:27 PM   #11
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Onthewp is pretty much right, save for the keep tryin thing. You may not get many chances if you go all in on a qb and fail but gotta have the nuts to try
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:49 PM   #12
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Onthewp is pretty much right, save for the keep tryin thing. You may not get many chances if you go all in on a qb and fail but gotta have the nuts to try
You try when the opportunity presents itself. You don't reach for mediocrity.

The Jackson argument is one that Pioli wins. We didn't have a true five tech on this roster when he came in and Jackson was the best potential for that position in that draft. And guess what? He's now playing like one of the best five techs in the league and the stats back him up.

At this point I sure as hell would rather have Jackson versus Sanchez. And this place would have went freaking ballistic if they picked Freeman at #3.

In fact, as it stands, I think you take only Clay Matthews and possibly BJ Raji over Jackson in that draft.

In 2010, we were not getting Bradford no matter how much you wanted to pony up. So, do you reach for Tebow over Eric Berry?

In 2011, quarterbacks went quick and a lot went much earlier than was anticipated. Were you willing to forgo Jon Baldwin and Rod Hudson to trade up for Blaine Gabbert or Christian Ponder?

In 2012, we were not getting Luck. Indy wasn't going to trade that pick for five full drafts. Griffin commanded a lot of picks...would you be willing to give up Poe, Allen and a shot at someone like Wilson, Jones, Smith or Bray in 2013?
Would you have been happy to give up multiple picks to move up for Tannehill and forgo the chance at previously said QB's in 2013?

It's about building a team, not mortaging your future on a position because we haven't picked that position in the first round in a while.

You all need to be a bit more objective and rational.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:50 PM   #13
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Griffin commanded a lot of picks...would you be willing to give up Poe, Allen and a shot at someone like Wilson, Jones, Smith or Bray in 2013?
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Is this a serious question?
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:54 PM   #14
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You try when the opportunity presents itself. You don't reach for mediocrity.

The Jackson argument is one that Pioli wins. We didn't have a true five tech on this roster when he came in and Jackson was the best potential for that position in that draft. And guess what? He's now playing like one of the best five techs in the league and the stats back him up.

At this point I sure as hell would rather have Jackson versus Sanchez. And this place would have went freaking ballistic if they picked Freeman at #3.

In fact, as it stands, I think you take only Clay Matthews and possibly BJ Raji over Jackson in that draft.

In 2010, we were not getting Bradford no matter how much you wanted to pony up. So, do you reach for Tebow over Eric Berry?

In 2011, quarterbacks went quick and a lot went much earlier than was anticipated. Were you willing to forgo Jon Baldwin and Rod Hudson to trade up for Blaine Gabbert or Christian Ponder?

In 2012, we were not getting Luck. Indy wasn't going to trade that pick for five full drafts. Griffin commanded a lot of picks...would you be willing to give up Poe, Allen and a shot at someone like Wilson, Jones, Smith or Bray in 2013?
Would you have been happy to give up multiple picks to move up for Tannehill and forgo the chance at previously said QB's in 2013?

It's about building a team, not mortaging your future on a position because we haven't picked that position in the first round in a while.

You all need to be a bit more objective and rational.
would i give up poe for Griffin?



you're applying the famous Chiefsplanet risk double standard

drafting a QB is risky

drafting an under achieving NT from a shitty conference is not risky

bottom line: we've spent 3 top eleven picks on the DL...and a 2nd on a backup QB

it's not defensible
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Old 09-04-2012, 06:22 PM   #15
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would i give up poe for Griffin?



you're applying the famous Chiefsplanet risk double standard

drafting a QB is risky

drafting an under achieving NT from a shitty conference is not risky

bottom line: we've spent 3 top eleven picks on the DL...and a 2nd on a backup QB

it's not defensible
Not just Poe. What did the Skins give up for Griffin? Three first round picks and a second.

He better be Joe Montana for that to pay off.

It's completely defensible.
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