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Old 02-10-2009, 04:53 PM  
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What's with the Thigpen fixation?
Now I fully admit it isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be on this forum but I've yet to figure out this fixation with him. It's really bad at some other unnamed forums..

I honestly have no way of comprehending what it's about. It's like everything people said about Croyle has now been lumped onto Thigpen. "Well um he's the guy we don't need another QB"

The worst part is the people who don't want a QB this year then say well if Thigpen doesn't work out we can just take Bradford or McCoy, it's like peoples brains fell out.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:27 PM   #361
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really? then why when it matters most do ALL teams go to the spread?
Uh what...if you're talking 2 minute drill its because the defense knows you're passing the ball...

You don't do it for an entire game because it's not wise to tip off your plays before the snap.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:27 PM   #362
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I'm not arguing that fact at all. But I have repeatedly seen Mecca say he wouldn't take an OLineman from a spread offense.

Now that only thing I can draw from that is because the spread covers some of the lines defaults. If linemen operating in the spread is actually HARDER for them as Mecca is saying in this thread, then shouldn't we be trying to draft them?
It's a transition thing. Making the transition from college to the NFL.

Being a LT in a spread offense in college is easy. You rarely have to run block, you rarely have to pass block for more than 2 seconds, and you're lining up against a lot of guys on a week to week basis that will be doing something other than playing football for a living - with rare exception.

Being a LT in a true spread offense in the pros would be hell.

You're facing the best of the best, week in, week out, and have to actually hold your block long enough for NFL level plays to develop - combined with the added speed of the game - and you're ****ed. And that's just the pass blocking part of the equation.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:28 PM   #363
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This is my stance on Thigpen:

1. He was one of the few highlights of this past season.
2. I don't believe he should be handed the starting job, but I also think he has enough talent to be able to earn it in TC.
3. A competent coaching staff could turn him into a franchise QB...
4. BUT, if there's an opportunity to draft a top QB this year, it would be silly not to take it.
5. Ultimately, none of this matters, because it's up to Pioli. And I trust his opinions (whatever they may be) more than those of anybody on the board. Even Mecca.
This.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:28 PM   #364
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Thigpen is just another Printers, Grigsby, Sippio. Chiefs fans are just attached to shit players.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:29 PM   #365
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Thigpen is just another Printers, Grigsby, Sippio. Chiefs fans are just attached to shit players.
Marc Boerigter FTW!
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:30 PM   #366
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but those two things are exactly what we did last year. We threw quick and we didn't run the ball. So it did help our pathetic oline.
No, it didn't.

Look at the sack numbers.

I've posted them several times.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:30 PM   #367
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why do you always use him? he got hurt, knee injury, wasnt the same after
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:31 PM   #368
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....way to undervalue the most important position on the team.
It's only important if the rest of the team is worth a sh**... I'm saying you shouldn't worry too much about that until you have the other major problems fixed.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:31 PM   #369
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yup,people actually thought he could be a starting wide out
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really? then why when it matters most do ALL teams go to the spread?
You really have no idea what the spread actually is, do you?

The 2-minute offense is not necessarily a true spread offense.

And FWIW, "when it matters most" usually means when you're desperate to get points to win/tie a game. You don't go to this crap for an entire game.
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It's only important if the rest of the team is worth a sh**... I'm saying you shouldn't worry too much about that until you have the other major problems fixed.
You get your QB first then fix the rest.
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LOL, the QB is the rims? I'd think the QB would be more like fixing the steering on a ****ed up car.
I think a top 5 pick QB is like the rims. So few of those guys are really worth the money. You just don't know and it's fine if you have the luxury of f-ing around with them, but we don't we have real needs at other positions. I just don't want to be sitting here next october bitching about how Sanchez doesn't have any time to throw or how it sucks that he had a season ending injury in the first game of the season because our o-line is crap.
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It is fine and dandy to use the spread offense, but you aren't ever going to make the Super Bowl running just the spread offense in the NFL.
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No, it didn't.

Look at the sack numbers.

I've posted them several times.
croyle didnt get sacked as much because when he played we were a run first team, the pass suprised the defense, not so with thigpen
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You get your QB first then fix the rest.

What teams have actually done that successfully? Go from a 2-14 team drafting a QB to a SB contender with that QB. I just can't think of any that have done it.
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