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Old 12-18-2011, 03:42 PM  
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I owe Kyle Orton an apology...
and quite a few people here should be doling them out as well...

Leonard Pope? Big catches. Barry Richardson? Nice job.

Same cast of characters, same playcalling (McCluster up the middle, anyone?)...

Yet Orton has 300 yards passing in a game where we led the entire way.

Yeah, I wanted to see Stanzi play and I still do.

But thank you Kyle Orton for making it ABUNDANTLY clear how much of a waste Matt Cassel is...
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:58 PM   #31
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Wrong, wrong, wrong. No surprise.
Are you serious?
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:58 PM   #32
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Orton and the entire team (except for short yardage OL run game) did a very good job. Just remember the old adage - don't get too excited over any 1 game, and don't get too down over any 1 game.
This.

Orton was still 0- whatever in the red zone...
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:59 PM   #33
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Of course. Same everything. I mean, other than the head coach, but that made no difference.

I will say that Orton played well. And, I am glad the Chiefs have more options at QB going into next year.

But, to say the situation is the same is foolish.


You just can't handle the truth, can you?

The simple fact is that if Haley wasn't such a baby, intent on spiting Pioli by starting Palko, this argument would have been over 3 weeks ago.

You should thank Haley because he gave you an extra 3 games to wiggle your way out of your ridiculous defenses of Cassel.

Instead you choose to die on that hill. Good luck with that.
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:59 PM   #34
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As long as we draft a QBotf and have an open fair compitition going into the next season I'm ok with it. I would have much rather seen Stanzi play but that's not looking like it will happen this season.

Yea for the victory and us not sucking today.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:00 PM   #35
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Are you serious?
Do you HONESTLY think we arrive at a scenario where we have 4 yards of offense in a half and the coach gets fired if we didn't already suffer through 2 seasons of Matt Cassel?

Get ****ing real. Cassel has been THE issue with this team since the first time he suited up.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:00 PM   #36
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Orton played a great game no doubt but let's remember they were playing one if not the worst D in the NFL. Let's see what he does the next couple of weeks.
When has Cassel played a good game without Jamaal Charles, even against poor defenses?
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:01 PM   #37
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This.

Orton was still 0- whatever in the red zone...
In defense of the receivers, they are not use to having the ball thrown to them down there. Caught them totally off guard. [/sarcasm off]
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Orton was magicly healthy & Haley didn't start him out of spite
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and quite a few people here should be doling them out as well...

Leonard Pope? Big catches. Barry Richardson? Nice job.

Same cast of characters, same playcalling (McCluster up the middle, anyone?)...

Yet Orton has 300 yards passing in a game where we led the entire way.

Yeah, I wanted to see Stanzi play and I still do.

But thank you Kyle Orton for making it ABUNDANTLY clear how much of a waste Matt Cassel is...

Nice post!
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Orton was a HUGE upgrade. I never thought I would say that about him in his career.
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When has Cassel played a good game without Jamaal Charles, even against poor defenses?
Don't know don't care Cassel sucks and should be gone. I am just not ready to heap alot of praise on Orton when they were playing a pretty bad D.
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When has Cassel played a good game without Jamaal Charles, even against poor defenses?
@SD
Minnesota
@Indy.

All better games this year, without Charles and saddled with Haley on the sideline.

Orton didn't throw a TD.

But, don't let the facts get in the way of anyones opinion.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:05 PM   #43
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Same cast of characters, same playcalling (McCluster up the middle, anyone?)...

The screens, reverse to Breston, and sweeps were rarely seen under Haley. More importantly, the plays were in to the QB in time for him to get on the line and make adjustments, the plays that were called were not entirely predictable (throwing on 1st down, going for long ball on 2nd and short*, sweep on middle distance).

*long pass play possible w/ a QB who can throw for 20+ yards.
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...But thank you Kyle Orton for making it ABUNDANTLY clear how much of a waste Matt Cassel is...
As much as I hate 'THIS!' posts, um, well, 'THIS!'
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Don't know don't care Cassel sucks and should be gone. I am just not ready to heap alot of praise on Orton when they were playing a pretty bad D.
It will be interesting to see how he fares against the Broncos and Raiders.

Orton has a real chance to make a great impression on Chiefs fans. He got to go against the Packers weak defense. Then, he will get to go against two teams he should know very, very well.
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